10% defer to RD acceptance is public (doc from this year deferred students)
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Yep seems the chance of being admitted off a deferral has dropped 33% off of prior years, but 10% is still more than a straight RD application rate.
( Approx15%ED, approx10% from an ED deferral in RD ( unknown number/per cent deferrals), and approx 5-7% overall).
Always have a plan B,C, and D and be flexible.While specific undergrad school may seem important to a HS senior in the grand scheme it is not as important as they think.
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For deferred ED students, has the āmid-year reportā been added to your portal or have you gotten any communication about it?
Sent it in but AO not responding if they recieved nor is reflected in the portal
Penn does not have a portal indicator for the mid-year report submission. If it were missing, you would have heard about it.
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Does UPenn really fill up half of their classes with ED?
Yes. From the DP article below: Over 8,000 students applied through the early decision process, which typically fills about half the class size ahead of regular decision.
Section C21 of the CDS also shows the number of students admitted under ED is typically half of the targeted 2400 member class.
And this is consistent with published ED admit rates of 15% (so 8000 x.15 = 1200 or half of the class).
But what is more dismal for RD applicants is if you take the remaining 51,000 who are applying RD you get an admit rate of 2.4% ( or 1200/51,000 = 0.0235). And to make matters even worse for those who apply just RD are the deferrals from ED who are thrown into their pool and have an admit rate of about 10% according to reports ( though the actual number of deferrals is not known). Presumably those in special programs and athletes have been included some place in the ED process , if not things are even worse for those applying RD.
Have a plan B, C, D etc.
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Penn gives out offer admission letters to 3549 last year from a pool of 54588 applicants though, so how come 1200 is half of the class?
Ok those numbers are based upon those matriculated or a class of about 2400. Obviously not everyone who is offered a spot matriculates. In fact if the offer number of 3549 is correct it would imply that roughly 30% (give or take a little) decline an offer to Penn. They must figure this based upon past statistics and would be in trouble if everyone accepted.
So if you believe and use 3549 offers and roughly half of the usual 2400 or so matriculating spots are filled in ED (again 8000x .15 Ed Admit rate) then 2349 are offered in RD from the 51000 who applied RD comes out to 4.6%. But remember this pool includes those who were deferred from ED and have been told (published data) that they have a 10% chance of admission (unknown number of ED deferrals) so the number is actually less than 4.6%.
Hard to believe that 30% of Pennās offers are rejected by students but considering they are trying for the same students as the other Ivy schools and similar level schools its possible.
Actually yield rate for 2022 was 72.9 or roughly 27% rejected them.
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Using your numbers, if we look at RD yield when students actually have a choice, 1200/2349 = 51%.
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I wonder if the low yield rate cited by BK is a result of the āivy or bustā crowd. I suspect so. I know of a kid deferred by HYP who applied to all of the other Ivies during RD. The kid really doesnāt know much about Penn, has never visited, and is unlikely to choose it over other Ivies ranked higher on his personal list.
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Thatās correct since the yield in the first 1200 acceptances( ED is binding) is 100%( maybe a little less if there are financial issues)
In addition, whether a smart thing or not, there is a perceived hierarchy among those who may receive multiple IVY (MIT, Stanford, Duke etc) admissions usually places Stanford, Harvard, Yale, and Princeton above Penn (unless you are talking about Wharton). Penn usually above Cornell and Dartmouth because of their āremote coldā locations with Brown and Columbia being specifically chosen for their open curriculum or location in NYC respectively vs Penn.
And of course there are financial considerations that may factor in a decision to attend Penn vs another school.
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None of those 3 schools are in the Ivy League 
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ED āmeltā is real. On average, yield on ED for colleges that offer that option is 88%, according to some surveys. Penn does not publish its number.
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No, but they are all equally in the conversation when Kids with multiple choices are considering the IVY schools and might as well be considered IVY schools (And are often chosen over IVY schools)- though from an athletic perspective Iām sure Stanford and Duke are happy not to be in the IVY league.
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The Daily Pennsylvanian is reporting on this. Seems like they are also looking to reconcile the website edits with data.
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