Updated College List (Interested in CS + humanities, also need help cutting things down)

I wrote out all my stats + what I’m looking for in an earlier post (http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1993643-help-me-consolidate-edit-my-college-list-potential-cs-major-p1.html). Nothing has changed significantly, but my junior year grades did drop a little + so did my GPA as a result (it’s a flat 93 right now). Also didn’t get president or VP like I hoped. :frowning:

Reaches:

  • Stanford
  • Princeton
  • Brown
  • Pomona

Low reaches:

  • Northwestern
  • Tufts
  • Cornell

Matches:

  • USC
  • WUSTL
  • U of Rochester
  • U of Michigan
  • Rice
  • Northeastern
  • Wellesley

Safeties:

  • Stony Brook (NYS resident)
  • Purdue
  • Macaulay honors (Hunter)

Also, is having 2 safeties enough? I don’t really like Hunter/Macaulay, but I feel like I should add another safety just in case. I know my schools are very varied, but I’m still unsure as to whether I would prefer a smaller school or a larger one. I’m a more introverted person, but at the same time, I don’t want to go to a school where everyone knows everybody else’s business or is extremely cutthroat. In addition, I do need to cut down my list to 15 schools max (preferably less than that actually).

@padfootprongs - In your other thread you mention that your parents will pay $20,000 per year, and that income is just above NYS Excelsior Scholarship cuttoff.

Have your run the NPC on the schools on your lists? Will they come in at less than $20,000? Or $25,500 if your parents are not including the $5500 direct loan that you can take in your name?

I know you are trying to cut down on schools, but you may want to consider a few more SUNY or CUNY schools, and/ or schools that will give you automatic merit for your stats that will get the cost down to what you mentioned your family can afford.

If there are schools on your lists that will be out of price range according to the NPC calendar, even with FA and/ or potential merit you may want to consider swapping out those schools for a few that are more likely to be affordable.

Don’t forget to factor in the added travel costs for scools farther away from NY.

I can not 100% speak to the categories in which you have schools listed. I am sure others can, though.

Interesting major combo! I really appreciate the CS+English combo and I think that’s set you apart ever so slightly at some places. Your GPA is fine, your SAT is great.

I think you need to reevaluate some of your colleges for fit, then add a safety. Think ASU, 80% acceptance rate safety. You’re right, the CS and liberal arts environment will help you narrow them down quite a bit.

Your ECs are not bad, but they’re on the weak end for schools like Stanford. That doesn’t mean that you’re at a disadvantage, you just don’t have the lists and lists and lists of national comp wins and hackathon awards that some CS kids will have. Your profile reads like you’re a more personable applicant versus being an award robot, so I think you’ll be okay with less ECs than some kids will have.

Stanford, Brown, and Pomona all look like great matches for you. The Claremonts (Pomona, Harvey Mudd, etc) will give you what you want as far as CS and English. I would take out USC- they give great aid and have a lot of scholarships, but I don’t really think of the as especially strong in CS or English. Rice is also considered to be a “rising star”, and TX has several startup hubs, which = opportunities in CS! I would consider taking Cornell off, as I feel more of a techie, intense vibe from it, and less of a LibArts/English atmosphere.

@padfootprongs look into UT Austin. They have an excellent CS degree. My son almost did a combo of CS plus Plan II honors (http://liberalarts.utexas.edu/plan2/) what an amazing combo! If he didn’t get into Princeton, he’d have done that and been very happy. He chose Princeton Engineering because he could do CS and Humanities at a great school.

Good luck!

Don’t know about English, but USC has a fantastic CS department. ARWU has it at #9 in the world.

So Hunter is not a safety because you do not like it. Purdue is unlikely to be under $20,000 for you, so it is a reach, not a safety. That leaves Stony Brook if your credentials are enough to get into the CS major there (investigate whether the CS major is more selective than the school overall).

Super reach because:
a. Most admission spots are given to Texas resident top 7% rank applicants.
b. The CS major is more competitive than the school.
c. Only the top end merit scholarships will make it affordable for the OP.

@ucbalumnus good point, missed the NYS resident.

Thanks to everyone for the advice; it is much appreciated. :slight_smile:

@KatMT I did run the NPC for all of my schools, and most of them are affordable. I’ve talked with my parents and they say they can pay up to 30k if it does come to that, but I would assume they would only do that if I got into one of my top schools. Regarding your advice about looking at SUNYs and CUNYs, I was thinking about Binghamton + Hunter for affordable safety schools, but I’m not a big fan of either so I am still on the lookout for safety schools.

@newkidnewtrix I’ve heard really great things about USC Viterbi (the engineering school at USC), and I was also very attracted by their merit scholarships, which is why I decided to apply to it. I know Cornell is more well known for its engineering/sciences, but their English options seem to be good as well. I think you might be right about the techie vibe – I’m planning to visit soon so I’ll reevaluate then. Also just wanted to say your feedback about ECs was very reassuring lol.

@ucbalumnus I ran Purdue’s NPC and it says I’d have to pay full price, but my college counselor (who is aware of my financial situation) listed it as a safety and I was also sort of banking on the merit scholarships since my stats are above the accepted student range according to Naviance. I’m also thinking about applying to the University of Washington as a safety – I know it’s OOS and a public school, but when I ran the NPC, my EFC was surprisingly very affordable (I did double check that I had entered in the right numbers!). I think the CS major is more competitive for Stony Brook, but I’m fairly confident that I’ll get in based on my stats and the large number of students they accept from my school every year.

Actually, scratch that bit about the University of Washington being a safety; just checked Naviance and it seems to be a target school rather than a safety.

Purdue scholarships are described here:
https://www.admissions.purdue.edu/costsandfinaid/freshman.php
It looks like any that could possibly be large enough to make the price affordable are reaches, so you should put Purdue in the reach category (admission but too expensive = rejection).

Note that Purdue requires a 3.00 GPA with an A- in better in a specified CS course and a B or better in a calculus course to be assured of declaring the CS major; those with a 2.75 GPA and a B or better in the specified CS course and calculus course may be considered if space is available: https://www.cs.purdue.edu/undergraduate/codo.html#codofall .

Washington CS is a reach for direct admission. You may be admitted as a general undeclared student, which is considerably less difficult than direct admission to CS, in which case you must face a competitive secondary admission process to get into the CS major: https://www.cs.washington.edu/prospective_students/undergrad/admissions .

Stony Brook offers direct admission to CS as a frosh, but that may be more competitive than the school overall. Enrolled undeclared students must earn at least 10 credits of CS courses with a 3.20 GPA in these courses and B- or higher in each course to apply to the CS major (does not look like that assures admission): http://sb.cc.stonybrook.edu/bulletin/current/academicprograms/cse/degreesandrequirements.php

You may want to find another safety where admission to the school and CS major are assured, and affordability is assured.

Cornell has excellent programs in humanities areas, not only english but also comparative literature and creative writing. And others.

To say it has one particular “atmosphere” reflects a misunderstanding of what it is really like there. It is not a tiny homogeneous liberal arts college, it is a multi-college university where students attending have very diverse academic interests. On the same campus you have people studying in its liberal arts college (“CAS”). While other people, who are also there, are studying in hugely diverse fields: eg industrial and labor relations, hotel administration, apparel design, policy studies, fine arts, urban planning, architecture, business, engineering, …

Some of these are" techie", some are not at all “techie”.There is not one set of interests, there is not one “type”…

Socially it is as diverse as it is academically.

There are more students attending its college of arts & sciences than at most stand-alone liberal arts colleges.
Its just that there are a lot of other people there too, above and beyond that (who are also not all “techie”).

Academically a CAS humanities student may spend a lot of time on the Arts Quad. And have many fellow travelers in their classes. Socially everyone is mixed in the freshman dorms. Afterwards, as an upperclassman, when you get your own social group , you may live and socialize with whoever you want to. That group will be as “techie” as you want it to be.

A humanities student is not likely to be taking engineering courses, on the engineering quad.

There is an impact, but it is social, not academic. Some programs, engineering and maybe business, tend to attract relatively more male students, so they contribute to a leveling out the university’s male-female ratio. A lot of stand-alone liberal arts colleges are weighed more female these days. There is a great deal of dating between colleges, back in my day but evidently now too, due primarily to everyone being together initially in the dorms, I think. I know a number of couples who met there, while attending different colleges, and later married. So I would say the social aspect of the other colleges may be more germane than creation of a particular “atmosphere”. There isn’t one “atmosphere”.

MY D2 graduated from Cornell as a humanities major. She dated a guy from a different college there. Also not a “techie”.She loved it there. She said her courses in English and creative writing were great.

Michigan, Rice, WUSTL, and USC are reaches, not matches.

Basically you don’t have any matches due to selectivity and you dont like your safeties… : (

Marist (excellent CS, good humanities) would be a (?low) match.
Look into SUNY Buffalo and SUNY Geneseo for matches in cs + Skidmore.

WAY too many reaches