UPenn ED Class of 2021 Discussion Thread

Is it wise to send an expanded resume to elaborate more on the activities done, for the space given in common app is too small?

Is it wise to send an expanded resume to elaborate more on the activities done, for the space given in common app is too small?

Hello everybody! I’ve got a bit of a conundrum on my hands. So, I very recently decided to apply to Penn, more specifically Wharton, and while I think my academic record is pretty solid (rank is 1/607, 35 composite ACT with 36 in English and math, all 5’s on 8 AP exams, National AP Scholar and National Merit Semifinalist), I have zero business related extracurriculars. All of my extracurriculars are more humanities-oriented (think music, French, social studies) as I was positive I wanted to pursue a major in International Relations, but now I think I would enjoy finance more.

TL;DR: will a lack of business extracurriculars kill my chances at Wharton, and if so, will applying ED help?

Thank you for reading this novel of a post!

@Anaphoras Have you looked at International Business? Wharton has the Huntsman Program which combines both business and international relations. That might be something you’d be interested in.

@Danny3895 I was wondering the same thing! Is there any insight on this?

@Danny3895 @Aztreas just write an explanation in the “additional information” section. Don’t send a resume it’s not necessary

@blu5959 I am supposed to mention something else in my additional section and not the activities. Do you think sending extended resume would hurt me?

@Danny3895 well I’ve been advised to not send a resume because it might look pretentious for a 18 year old kid to have a resume. I explained all my awards and activities stuff in the additional information section and it took only 400 words, so surely there is enough space for you to add stuff in there?

Hey, I was wondering whether Penn is more selective for certain engineering majors then others. Like is CS harder to get into that say systems engineering?

@blu5959 Professionalism doesn’t need to really come through age; resume just shows that you’ve done more corporate work rather than just learning through books. But opinions differ and you’re right, I can mention them in the additional information along with what I had to write it in there.

Resume: Many people send them that are applying to Wharton. In fact, I don’t know anyone that hasn’t. I don’t think it could hurt you. At worst they just won’t use it. And you will need a resume once you get to colleges…when it comes time to apply for clubs and leadership positions, a resume is often the first thing they ask for. Especially if you are looking at Business clubs and roles.

@Anaphoras - Question about not having Businessy stuff on the resume and applying to Wharton. For all other business schools, I would say not a big deal. But it MIGHT be an issue at a school like Wharton just because the people applying might have solid business experiences.

Your stats are amazing, but I have to be honest with you, this is Wharton. I have seen applicants with stats like that not get in. My good friend’s son had similar stats and was deferred ED Wharton, then rejected. He is at U Chicago now and is very happy.

If Wharton is the only school you want at Penn, then you should go for it and just explain your genuine interest in business in your essay. But if you aren’t hellbent on Wharton, the college might be the safer choice.

With stats like yours, you will have lots of options…good luck!

They like Male students in Nursing.

@Nckp03 Significant advantage. Males in nursing are a minority.

@collegemomjam @Anaphoras Not all Wharton students have had solid previous business experience. I would go as far as to say that a very significant percentage has not had it. It is not a requirement because in most cases it doesnt say much about your quality and potential (most high school kids with business internships have gotten them through family connections or school resources). They mainly care about extracurriculars, leadership positions and signs that you have applied yourself in your extracurriculars and have shown leadership (of course these in addition to top stats).

Hey I’m looking for some advice regarding my ED scenario. I applied to Penn Bio-engineering last year and got waitlisted (didn’t make the cut from there). Long story short, I didn’t get accepted anywhere else so I’m taking a gap year. My luck did not get any better from there as I tore my ACL while playing basketball before my exams and so my predicted grades of 4As turned into an A, 2Bs and a C. Horrible, I know. I’ve got a 2090 on my SAT and am taking Subject tests too. I’ve got loads of ECAs to back me up. Main question - what do my chances of getting into bio engineering look like with an ED application? Sorry for the long post.

Hi! I’m an international student to, want to ask if applying for LSM with second preference CAS is a good idea. If I don’t get into LSM, will my chances of CAS reduce due to the LSM app too ?

Hey everyone, I would appreciate if someone could possibly give me some advice on my ED app to Penn. I have a pretty strong all around application overall (good grades, good SAT, good recs) but the only thing is that I’m applying for biochemistry in CAS and I was wondering how badly/whether or not my 680 subject test in chemistry will hurt my application. I took the chem SAT II after sophomore year when I only took Honors Chemistry, but I’m taking AP Chem now in my senior year and am doing super well in it. Does Penn require that I send this subject test score? Should I? It says they “recommend” that I submit two subject tests (I took 2 others, got a 780 on math and a 720 on French)

tldr: how much will a low score on the chemistry subject test hurt my chances of getting accepted ed into biochemistry at CAS?

@galacticpepe Penn does not require you to send all of your scores for SAT subject tests, so I would only send those that you’re comfortable with.

@galacticpepe I would consider sending the French and math scores because they show your capability in other subjects. Plus, they’ll see that you’re taking AP Chem and will eventually see that AP score (if you choose to take the test). Best of luck!

Hello! I am writing my Penn supplement for engineering and want to reference specific classes. Where can I find a course catalog or description of classes? All I’ve been able to find is the degree requirements which list all of the classes as acronyms.

Ok thanks @ellier19 , I guess I’ll end up just sending my 780 math and 720 French