UPenn needs to abandon ED like Princeton too

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Pennsylvania
1

<p>Let us see if they consider themselves elite along with HYPMS too. I believe they can afford without any doubts in my mind.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S15/86/07G08/index.xml?section=topstories[/url]”>http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S15/86/07G08/index.xml?section=topstories</a></p>

2

<p>Oh man, I'm glad I'm part of the Class of 2011 because I think the only chance I have at getting into Penn this year is through Early Decision.</p>

<p>I'm sure Penn will follow suit sooner or later, as will the rest of the Ivies and elite schools. Early Decision really does give some an unfair advantage.</p>

3

<p>The word today is that Cornell is "seriously considering" joining Harvard and Princeton by ending its early decision program:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.cornelldailysun.com/node/18454%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cornelldailysun.com/node/18454&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

4

<p>
[quote]
Let us see if they consider themselves elite along with HYPMS too.

[/quote]

Granted that the majority of "HYPSM" hasn't budged their early admission policy at all, I don't see how removing ED is considered "elite."</p>

5

<p>I think he was making fun of Cornell. It is my impression that Byerly doesn't think any school is elite except Harvard.</p>

6

<p>Penn refuses to be suckered in like Princeton: <a href="http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2006/09/20/News/Penn-Wont.Jump.On.Admissions.Latest.Trend-2286758.shtml?norewrite200609221540&sourcedomain=www.dailypennsylvanian.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2006/09/20/News/Penn-Wont.Jump.On.Admissions.Latest.Trend-2286758.shtml?norewrite200609221540&sourcedomain=www.dailypennsylvanian.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

7

<p>This whole thing really reeks of an exceptionally shrewd move by Harvard. While I wholeheartedly agree with their stance that ED overwhelmingly favors wealthy applicants, I think they are reaching a bit when they say the same applies to EA (this coming from someone who went to a high school where about half of the class was below the federal poverty level). Harvard so completely demolishes everyone else in terms of cross admits and the like, that by putting their entire applicant pool in the RD round, they can really hurt the yields of some of the major competitors. More importantly, getting other schools to go along while bolster Harvard substantially, especially when it's Princeton following them. Princeton takes a large part of its class ED currently, and does not have the omnipresent name recognition of that school up in Cambridge; i think this will hurt their admit rate and yield a LOT more than Princeton seems to think it will.</p>

<p>The only school i think that can afford to take the same risk as Harvard is probably Stanford, only because they pull from a somewhat different applicant pool being on the West Coast.</p>

8

<p>I honestly don't think Penn can afford it.</p>

9

<p>Actually, I think it'll slighty hurt Harvard's stats in the short run. People will just apply early to other schools besides Harvard to secure a spot. I would think that Harvard's EA pool has a higher yield than its RD pool.</p>

<p>However, I agree that Princeton will take a big hit. Princeton's yield is low compared to Harvard's and without ED, they'll just have to increase acceptance dramatically.</p>

10

<p>omg i really looked forward applying ED for penn next year.
Eliminating early admissions will screw me up;;
but good thing that Stetson won't eliminate it for now.</p>

11

<p>This was a very shrewd and complex move for Harvard. Let us hope that the stated goals are realized and that the disadvantaged are indeed benefited by having just the RD pool to compete in for Harvard admissions. Meanwhile, Penn is in a strong position because Princeton fell very quickly, and Yale may well follow suit (if only to silence the peanut gallery, given past pronouncements). </p>

<p>The fact remains that each student should still try for a "good-chance-for-me" best fit. Waiting for Harvard's RD may make sense if Harvard is your one and all. In that case, it will not matter to you where you stand in relation to the others applying from your school, etc. Same is true for the other RD-only schools. On the other hand, if you have decided that you want Penn, apply to Penn, and if you want to learn where you stand early you still can, as least for now. Each student and each school must decide its own path. I do not have any inside information, but I do believe financial aid decisions can be re-evaluated throughout undergrad. </p>

<p>Anyway, Penn these days is drawing a talented student body from points here and abroad of all stripes and colors. (The 2010 stats are up.) </p>

<p>Final comment: In the future, schools without ED/EA might make more conservative decisions and greater use of waitlists. Time will tell...</p>