Upenn?

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Hi everyone</p>

<p>What are my chances of getting into Upenn with these stats?</p>

<p>As of 10th grade:</p>

<p>GPA U/W-3.67 W-4.38
Freshman year - 3 Honors, All A's
Soph year - 4 Honors 1 AP - 4 B's, 2A's</p>

<p>Junior year classes - 4 AP 1 honors
hopeufl senior year classes - 5 AP 1 honor</p>

<p>hopeful gpa after junior year - U/W-3.77 W-4.58</p>

<p>Awards- 20+ in math, science, and business competetions
2 Double Accerlated courses
volunteer - 30+ hours so far</p>

<p>Junior year - take SAT I, SAT Math IIC, SAT Physics, and SAT Chem</p>

<p>I have great recommendation teachers in mind, and i have over 3 pages of stuff for EC. BUT....is my GPA good enough to get in since I crashed soph year with 4B's?</p>

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<p>see you in Philly.</p>

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<p>You're kidding, right? The unweighted GPA is not that great, and we still haven't seen SATs or extracurriculars.</p>

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<p>updated info above. Do u think i would have a chance considered my grades for soph year?</p>

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<p>you have a chance, but you have to realize that w/o any scores it is really hard to tell. otherwise though, keep up the good work and try to raise your gpa as much as possible. good luck!</p>

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<p>Any more opinions?</p>

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<p>Your sophomore year grades are significantly more important than your freshman year grades. 4 Bs in one year is really quite a lot. I think you would have to get into the 2300s to balance that out.</p>

<p>In all honesty, your chances aren't looking too great. If you overloaded yourself sophomore year, junior year is likely to be just as bad or worse. But there are, of course, other options besides the Ivies.</p>

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<p>The fact that you have over 3 pages of ECs makes me worry that you're one of those compulsive joiners. Make sure you choose a few ECs to pursue relentlessly, and try to take on some leadership positions.</p>

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<p>Let me explain a few things about the Ivies. Right now there are about 21,500 students accepted to the Ivy schools each year, and the numbers are as follows for each separate school:</p>

<p>Harvard 2,000
Yale 1,900
Princeton 1,700
Dartmouth 2,100
Columbia 1,650
Penn 3,600
Brown 2,550
Cornell 6,000</p>

<p>Presuming that about 1,500 of these are people that have been accepted to multiple schools, this means that 20,000 students total are accepted to these schools each year out of a graduating class of 1,500,000 US students and 500,000 foreign students that would consider these schools. Thus, one out of every 100 students is accepted to these schools. Ignoring for a moment that prep school students have better chances, this means that if there are 300 people at your school, maybe 3 have a chance to get in.</p>

<p>Thus you need to be in the top 1% to top 2% to have any chance at acceptance. In other words if 3 of 300 will get in, you need to be in the top 6 grade-wise, and then have better test scores and better ECs than the 3 of the other 5 people you are competing against.</p>

<p>If you, in your first two years, had 12 classes and got 8 As and 4 Bs, you are not in the top 2%. You would have to have 12 As and no Bs or 11 As and 1 B to be in the top 2%. At this point, you're only chance is to get only As from this point on, to have the top test scores, and have better ECs (extracurriculars) than everyone else.</p>

<p>But that's okay--there are great schools out there besides the Ivies. Just do well and get into one of them. You'll still get a great education.</p>

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<p>^ all that logic isnt true</p>

<p>it's all up to the adcom...and wierd things can happen.</p>

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<p>if you really want UPenn, you could start to do stuff now to show interest. They really like kids who like them, because the last thing they want is a campus full of depressed Harvard rejects. Anyway, I don't think that your grades will necessarily hold you back as long as you make your Junior grades perfect and good SATs of course. But 4 B's will certainly not make a difference as long as the B thing was only a stage during sophomore year</p>

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<p>what kind of things should I do to show interest? when im going to apply, im going to get their application and not just the standard one sent to every college. I'm also going to college visits at Upenn. Is there anything else?</p>

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<p>An unweighted GPA of 3.77 would be good enough. However, your test scores would need to be at least 1400 or greater (M + V) annd you would need decent ECs to make Penn a feasible reach (it's a reach for everyone).</p>

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<p>applying ed shows interest...</p>

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<p>contact the admissions officer that handles your area. Come up with BS things to ask him/her. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/contact/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/contact/&lt;/a> </p>

<p>For example, "I would really like more information about the (insert subject that interests you) department. Ask for pamphlets, ask about an EC that you would like to participate in if you were accepted. If you want to go all out, attend one of the information sessions in your area. you can even sign in and leave.</p>