URGENT HELP ! Am I really doomed to lose schooling or go to a community college? Will chance u back?

<p>If you have some Common App slots left (which, according to your list, you should), try applying to some of the schools here:
<a href=“College Search | College Finder | Colleges by Major & Location”>College Search | College Finder | Colleges by Major & Location;
RIT, Sewanee, Dickinson, Gettysburg, Franklin&Marshall, UNC Wilmington , UMW, St Mary’s of CA, Willamette… are all very good schools.
It’s not “Top 10 or community colleges”, you know :slight_smile: </p>

<p>Well,@MYOS1634, thx for your suggestions.However, I don’t have any slots left so far(the CA limit is at 20).
I had considered some of your colleges in the list, but not all of them provide int’ls FA. While some schools do provide FA, it is extremely difficult for Chinese applicants to get in (e.g Sewanee). </p>

<p>BTW, what are my chances at Brandeis with scholarship? I’ve adjusted my list a little bit before the formal submission of my app. </p>

<p>Everything you are–at least ONE school will take you. You’re overqualified for community college. Just keep waiting for more response. Good luck! </p>

<p>if you’re really concerned about attending a college in the US, you could cross reference the list of schools with deadlines past 2/1 with the list of schools not Commonapp exclusive, and apply to a couple of those. There are about 2,000 schools between the schools on your list and community college, there HAS to be some where you would get immediate merit awards if not full tuition.</p>

<p>HYPM: You have really great scores so they know you’re super smart but so unfortunately are more than 7% of the people who apply to HYPM you’ll have to wait and see which made it this time around. They’re not out of reach but you’re not a shoo-in. Math/science is your strength so MIT would like to see that. If colleges allow superscoring then yes, do it (like MIT) but don’t submit both just because you think in their mind the admission officers will superscore (they don’t) and you may be stuck with them weighing your second SAT more heavily bc it is a more recent representation.
Don’t trust this but here are my thoughts…
Dartmouth: reject
Cornell: accept or waitlist
Columbia: waitlist
Brown: reject
Williams, Swarthmore, Carleton, Davidson: probably accept
Wash & Lee: accept</p>

<p>@bbff1234 it’s hard to say because I don’t know much about int’l students or the int’l application process. But I think if you applied to University of California at Berkeley or LA, you will most likely get accepted. And those schools are probably the best in the world (especially Berkeley). As for the other schools you applied to, just cross your fingers and hope for the best. Someone with stats like yours HAS to get accepted somewhere great. :)</p>

<p>Forgot! chance me back please <a href=“Chance me: Stanford, MIT, Brown, Upenn, Harvard, Cambridge, JHU, N-western. THANKS! will chance back - #22 by Tanboyrunfast - Chance Me / Match Me! - College Confidential Forums”>Chance me: Stanford, MIT, Brown, Upenn, Harvard, Cambridge, JHU, N-western. THANKS! will chance back - #22 by Tanboyrunfast - Chance Me / Match Me! - College Confidential Forums;

<p>You have a great chance at everything. calm down. </p>

<p>Really? It’s just too hard for int’ls to get FA in US! I know so many previous Chinese elite failures - many people with amazing credentials who are later turned down!</p>

<p>Can anyone make more predictions over my list in US?I’d highly appreciate it!</p>

<p>If you’re really worried, there are lots of good colleges still admitting students where you could get merit aid.
NO one can “make predictions” because all your colleges are super selective.
It’s not surprising many kids with amazing credentials are turned down if they don’t have at least 2 schools with admit rates above 50% and a couple in the 25-50 range.
Not getting in with “only elite, only 20% or less admit rates” criteria doesn’t make them elite failures but students who made foolish lists without any safeties.
If your anxiety is genuine, you’ll apply to a few more colleges either state schools with rolling admissions and merit aid (but the best scholarships and the flagships are long passed) or selective colleges from that list:
<a href=“College Search | College Finder | Colleges by Major & Location”>College Search | College Finder | Colleges by Major & Location;

<p>you have a great chance at ivies. they also offer a financial aid program.like princeton </p>

<p>You have got exceptional stats even among other chinese applicants. You seem to be very intelligent so I think your essays were kickass. You will get accepted to one of the ivies. Think positively.</p>

<p>To be honest, I do not know enough about how financial aid will affect your chances as an international student to chance you. However, I just want to make the point that it is not a choice between these schools and community college for you. You have an incredible future ahead of you but a lot of students from overseas buy into the myth that there are only 10 or 15 good schools in my country, and it’s just not true. However, it would be a damn shame if you did not get into one of these schools because those are some incredible scores!! </p>

<p>Hi again, everyone. Thanks a lot for all your pertinent advice during my entire application process. As a freshman in college looking back right now, I guess I should now post some of my results as an international applicant:</p>

<p>Admitted: HKU(with a huge scholarship, currently attending); ChineseU of HK; Mcgill(with partial award), Baylor(with partial award), National U of Sg(with binding FA after acceptance);</p>

<p>Waitlisted: Cornell, Vassar, Colby, Kenyon, Wash & Lee(all said no eventually)</p>

<p>Rejected: All the rest(I’m not that distressed with the outcome, since I’m well-aware of the need-aware policies for international students.)</p>

<p>Perhaps my actual result may come as a great surprise to you all, but keep in mind that I’m an international student from China pursuing FA. In such a scenario, regardless of one’s talent or the prestige of the institutions, all the schools become reaches or extreme reaches, so chances are pretty high that an int’l candidate can be rejected everywhere. Granted, there are people(or legends on paper) who manage to receive admission offers from reputed schools such as the Ivies with sufficient financial assistance, yet these guys belong to one of the very few - not just because of the quality of resume, but because of many other factors, or even luck.</p>

<p>Though having lived in a city where educational agents do the utmost to advertise ‘personal packaging’ and the successful cases to Ivies with such assistance, I chose to handle everything in my own style, not so much for any sort of thriftiness(the commission involved could be $30- 50k sometimes) as for my integrity that I ought to endeavor for entry to top universities by devising my own extracurriculars and embracing my own ideas. And thus I worked by myself only throughout the process, without ANY HELP FROM THE EXTERNAL AGENTS - from my band at school to my experiences in one of the top Chinese National Youth Scientist Conferences, I overcame many barriers and eventually won many awards. Even if I had reapt nothing in the process, I still would have cherished these precious memories, for just as we all applaud to those who can’t win the champion in a marathon, so we should all cheer for the process rather than the glittering offer letters.</p>

<p>And then I waited for offers, feeling a sense in limbo occasionally yet often have no time to stew over trifling worries as I looked forward to the Intel ISEF as a part of Chinese delegation. Days, weeks, and months had gradually passed when, at the end of March this year, all the decision letters from US flew into my email and mail box. Waitlists. Rejections. The harsh reality loomed in front of me - with 90% of Chinese applicants willing to pay full-ride(even by selling their family flats) to go to virtually EVERY more or less famed school, FA candidates like me stand nearly no chance to win.</p>

<p>But I have my concerns. I should not rely on resources on family too much, because I’m the person who is going to shape my future. Those who see the Chinese kids riding on fancy Falarris or spending money like a genuine ‘tuhao’ do not understand many aspiring independent Chinese candidates, who strive for the best because we know our responsibilities in our family, who would stay true to ourselves when lured by agents devising all the nice-looking activities that make up a ‘shiny’ resume,who always remain original even when external agents produce batches and batches of students to good schools. Those wanting an easy ride by paying huge sums from family assets of $$ to agents and schools, we all fondly believe, will bear the responsibility that they should shoulder in the future.</p>

<p>Would my post seem kind of cliched? It definitely would, as so many high-achieving international guys had aired their views from a wide array of outstanding schools. However, I still would like to share with you my ideas and thought, because I think whatever is real demands no embellishment, whether at Harvard, Yale or anywhere else. Wish all the studious candidates good luck, and hope that my comments can serve as motivation for you guys(esp. Chinese DIY candidates) to some degrees. </p>

<p>@ bbff1234
I am really sorry that you did not get in. You sound like someone who might have had the scores if not for the financial aid issue (it is, from what I hear, much harder for international students who need financial aid). That was why I was a bit more hesitant in my last post when everyone else was saying chancing you as having a shot at at least one or two of the Ivy Leagues. </p>

<p>HOWEVER, I really think you should not give up on the U.S. I think a lot of students who live outside of the US take an “all or nothing” approach, and I think it’s a huge mistake. What I really wanted to bring home to you was the idea that there are only 10 or 15 schools worth going to in my country is a myth and it is a myth that mostly exists only outside of America’s borders (and on College Confidential). You could have an amazing future at a lot of America’s top schools. Which worldwide university rankings are you using. How does HKU compare to America’s top 100 universities? I would also look at which country you plan to reside in. If you are going to go back to mainland China, how does HKU compare to a school such as JHU, the UC’s, or University of Washington?</p>

<p>Here are some rankings of worldwide universities:</p>

<p><a href=“World University Rankings 2013-14 | Times Higher Education (THE)”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2013-14/world-ranking&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.shanghairanking.com/”>http://www.shanghairanking.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>It is not too late to apply to some amazing schools if your dream is to study in America. If HKU is the better option, then that’s great, but are you just looking at the name. Some of the schools you mentioned are ranked far lower on these lists than the schools that I mentioned.</p>

<p>@testadvice Thanks a lot for your advice. I’m actually using the QS uni rankings. Again, it would be great for me to study in the US, but I won’t be so distressed if I can’t. Perhaps I can consider other options such as the grad schools in the states. In mainland China, HKU obviously has a far higher reputation than most of the US schools do. I do understand that HKU is not that renowned in America, but overall, I’m satisfied with my choice so far. However, I do appreciate your comments, and hopefully, I may go to the US or other brilliant parts of the world some day.</p>

<p>Yes, HKU with a great scholarship is an excellent choice, certainly thousands times better than community college at OOS costs or Baylor. :slight_smile:
Congratulations!
In addition, with a degree from HKU you can certainly attend a good graduate school, provided you do very well there.
I’m sorry your applications didn’t turn out as they could have as far as admission to the US, but you ended up with a great choice at home and with your resourcefulness and intelligence, I’m confident you’ll have a good time in HKU, learn a lot, and will get into a great grad school later on. :)</p>

<p>@MYOS1634 Thanks a lot for your encouragement! I’m sure I will. Again, as an aspiring Chinese guy who would like to shape my future in my own hands, I highly appreciate all your advice from Collegeconfidential. Perhaps one day I will head for states to pursue loftier goals - with time and endeavor, visions will become reality.</p>

<p>P.S. HKU is not a stereotypical Chinese mainland school - it’s a uni with British (and increasingly American) influence, with all the classes taught in English. </p>

<p>@bbff1234 – I know HKU is a superb school and is not a mainland school. I am just saying don’t fall into the trap of thinking you only had a choice between the top 15 schools in America or community college. </p>