<p>I just want to know how urm's are given an advantage besides SAT points added...how exactly do urm's get an upper hand in top school admissions processes</p>
<p>Well, colleges are always seeking to diversify their campuses.</p>
<p>So, besides the added SAT points... If one is an URM other than by racial status (ie low income, obscure religion, adopted, I don't know... anything outside the norm), the college may simply give that person added consideration. Such a person wouldn't get SAT points added, he still need to fall within the standards of the college, however, he can fall within the lower ranges of the admissions statistics and get a better chance of admission over someone without "URM" status who has similar statistics... Colleges want diversity and are willing to accept less than perfect applicants (not THAT much less) in an effort to increase diversity.</p>
<p>Their apps get 10 gold stars and are slid through the auto in slots with the President's kids.</p>
<p>-_-...suze i was actually hoping from an englightening response from you</p>
<p>kev07wan, you have described this process in a very interesting way. I actually like the way you've described it more so than all the anti-AA people have. The fact that you mentioned that these admits can fall within the lower ranges of acceptable scores makes more sense than URMs being completely out there (like a URM getting a 900/2400 and getting accepted; this is what anti-AA people push). </p>
<p>Anyways, beefs, they aren't guaranteed anything. They still are like any other applicant, but with extra considerations.</p>
<p>thing is...ive seen hispanics/africans americans with 1400/2400 get into columbia and things like that and i dont understand how</p>
<p>URMs are getting way less of a bump than they did even 10 years ago. At mid tier ivies with acceptance rates of just under 20%, the URM acceptance is maybe 25%. The biggist boost goes to low income, inner city kids, not to upper middle class URMs.</p>
<p>Suze's right, at most top colleges, URMs get approximately 5% increase in getting in.</p>
<p>hmm i seee</p>
<p>suze, 25%? were are you getting these stats, from your observations? No college would release their URM and ORM admits percentages. That would cause an uproar. And you are SO wrong about middle class URM's. A hispanic kid with college-educated parents and a mediocre gpa and average test scores could get gain admitance into a college with "acceptance rates of just under 20%" depending on how many hispanics apply that particular year. Colleges need to maintain their "diversity".</p>
<p>yea suze out of curiosity i just wanna know where you get these numbers</p>
<p>Search Northstarmom, she recently posted the numbers.</p>
<p>cant find it...i would appreciated it if you pointed it out</p>
<p>dido! (10 charcters)</p>
<p>PM Northstarmom, it's from a journal for AAs in education, but I don't remember the name and don't have time to search.</p>
<p>Colleges are having a greater number of URMs of every kind save native americans, every year, applying. There is especially a growing number of middle and upper middle class URMs applying to top colleges.</p>
<p>Colleges do publish the numbers!</p>
<p>Also, look on this site. People telling URMs they're a shoo in and they get rejected. Glose comes to mind, deferred (polite rejection) from an ivy after being told here it was a sure thing.</p>
<p>here is the article that suze was referring to</p>
<p>oh ok ive seen that before thanks</p>
<p>Beefs,
If you are a top performing URM you are are very attractive to many competitive colleges. The advantage is not a formula and there are other factors that would increase your attractiveness e.g. low-income (under about $70,000 family income) and first generation to attend college.</p>
<p>i see...i am top-performin i blieve but my family's imcome is about 100,000 a year i believe</p>
<p>My family earns less than 30k, and I'm Asian. DARN, almost there. Haha.</p>