<p>Hello I do not inend for this to turn into an affirmative action debate so please save any arguments for other threads.</p>
<p>I have seen statistics that have palced the number of African Americans scoring 1450 or above around 200 each year. For Ivy league schools, prestigious LAC's such a Williams and Amherst, and other prestigious universities such as Notre Dame and Stanford, realisticly what would be the benifits for a upper middle class African American who was in the top 8% of his/her school and scored around 1440 with decent E.C.s and national Achievement status. this would also be assuming they had good reccomendations. I was wondering because it seems that African Americans, especially males, with these stats are in high demand. Would it be unlikely for one with these stats to be accepted into 80% to all of these universities?</p>
<p>Again please not debates or arguments on affirmative action. I am not starting this thread for that. I only want to know how having these stas would truly benefit a upper to middle class African American.</p>
<p>The LAC acceptance rates are far higher for URM students than those posted by top universities.
Go over to the JBHE's website; they have the stats there.</p>
<p>I have an African American friend who has been blessed all his life (his father is was the prime minister of a country in Africa), attended the best schools, etc. He has been courted by SO MANY high profile colleges. He has much lower stats... the answer is yes.</p>
<p>I'd say 80% sounds right. I mean, even URM or not, you're pretty qualified as it stands.</p>
<p>Don't let URM-status affect your psyche.</p>
<p>sorry...whats URM?</p>
<p>urm = extremely high boost due to desire of achieving diversity...however it should be noted that many african americans/females are against affirmative action in that they believe the process itself is a discrimination against african americans/girls in general because it seems to indicate that these "minorities" need to be admitted w/ lower stats because they cannot achieve higher quality work...so just a comment...affirmative action is actually seen as a form of discrimination</p>
<p>Well thank you so much darkhope for that great piece of analysis. I especially enjoyed how you nicely paired it with the thread that had 'not a debate' part of its title.</p>
<p>sorry lol...i don;t think it was a debate in that i wasn;t for or against aa...i think i supported both sides =D</p>
<p>christalena2: URM= Under Represented Minority.</p>
<p>^^ thanks!! I was assuming something like that...making up some weird acronym answers., not even close</p>
<p>lol, there are a lot of weird acronyms here. it takes awhile to get them. there is a thread in the parents forum listing a bunch.</p>
<p>i should check that out. Ive had to self-study my CC acronyms...lol</p>
<p>I did too. it took a while.</p>
<p>I find it funny that all the threads that start off requesting no debating either end up as complete arguments or completely off topic...</p>
<p>I'll stop posting now and this thread can try to get back on topic. (whatever it was...)</p>