How do you compare these two categories for top colleges?
<p>URMs are also students of color. Consequently, you can't compare the two. "Students of color" includes students who are anything but white. </p>
<p>If your question is how do Asians of all nationalities compare to URMs, since superbly qualified Asians are a dime a dozen when it comes to top colleges, being Asian would not help an applicant. Being a URM would help an applicant.</p>
<p>The exceptions to this would be places like Vanderbilt, Grinnell and University of Wisconsin, which have a hard time attracting students of color -- URMs as well as nonURMs. I'm not sure, however, whether you're including such colleges in your list of "top colleges."</p>
<p>not all hispanics are colored" Asians are 'white'</p>
<p>I know its a weird category but it subdivides for example, Asian-Indians and also perhaps certain sects of Spanish people that are dark-colored and white.</p>
<p>Asian-Indians are still considered people of color in the US as are Hispanics even though some are white and some even may be Asian. The whole racial categorization system is crazy -- worldwide. It will be nice when some day all we see are various human beings, not races, which is a false concept anyway.</p>
<p>other tips?</p>
<p>other ideas guys?</p>
<p>I'm not really understanding your post. I mean, you check what ethnicity you are, not how dark your skin is. ?</p>
<p>but colleges can assume that you are colored..i.e. asian indian...or certain part of south americ</p>
<p>by looking at your pic. or interview, possibly (although you can tell a dark asian indian from most dark hispanics by name and face), but their not gonna weight your skin tone- just the box you check. </p>
<p>Look, colleges have people doing addmissions of students as their job, they're not got let themselves be fooled (espeically ivies) by some kid trying to pass as a URM. </p>
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<p>I.E An asian indian desperately seeking ivies (harvard?) lies to adcoms and ashames own race by claiming to be a hispanic american ( a URM mind you, just like af. american, who are known to have struggles within its communites, education of its children, and crime) </p>
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<p>EVER THINK THE INTERVIEWER IS GONNA ASK A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR FAMILY, MAYBE A Q. ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT BEING AN UNDER REP. GROUP?</p>
<p>interview is not required!</p>
<p>"interview is not required!" ????</p>
<p>Why do people sometimes come onto the forums and ask how they can somehow scam the system. Yes, there are other ways that they can tell. One obvious one that I won't mention.</p>
<p>The extremely selective colleges typically have honor codes that they take very seriously. Many schools will allow students to take tests on their own without supervision and whenever and wherever they want to take it. If you are thinking of scamming the system, I don't recommend that you place yourself in that environment.</p>
<p>FUNNY STORY: There was a college professor who was legendary on campus who had a test on Monday morning. Four of his students went away for the weekend and partied too hard. They got back late and decided to ask if they could take the test late since they had a flat tire on the way back. The professor said sure. They came in to take the makeup exam and the professor put them in four separate rooms, and there was a question on the test worth 80% of the grade asking "Which tire?".</p>
<p>yes. interviews are required at many colleges and some ask for a photo (i.e georgetown university). and i always thought harvard did too. ?
your really pathetic.</p>
<p>ok thanks all my homies and brothas for your inputizzles</p>
<p>There was an article in the Wash Post only yesterday about some kid who was in the court on a separate charge, and he was caught stealing money from a shop that a blind man was operating inside the courthouse. You really don't want to be that person when he is sentenced by the judge. :)</p>
<p>If you do try to fake being a URM and they discover it even twenty years from now, somebody who is actually a member of that minority is going to take it very personally. They can kick you out of school at any time or revoke your diploma later for lying on the application. It says so where you sign the application. Of course, why don't you just cut out the middle man and lie about going to college?</p>
<p>I assume a sarcastic comment is coming from you next, so go ahead.</p>
<p>Dufus, u are right. I promise I wont be a dufus and do that. I am not a URM though but simply a minority.</p>
<p>There are colleges where asian or indian/asian are considered URM's, particularly in the South. You have to look at the racial breakdown of the school in one of the guides and see. Some colleges are only one or two percent asian.</p>
<p>Technically, the correct spelling is "doofus" when you use it in the way that you used it. :)</p>
<p>thanks, I was trying to be sarcastic and thus added a silly witty remark. sorry :)</p>
<p>An under represented minority or URM, is anyone that is differs from the majority of the student body: geographically, racially, ethnically, socially, and/or economically. The majority of the student body at nearly all completive schools consists of white's that are from middle-upper class (and beyond) families and have parents who are professionals and are college educated. Therefore, if you're Asian and apply to Harvard for example, you are still considered an URM, but to a lesser degree. There exists only a perceived disadvantage for Asians applying to competitive schools.</p>
<p>At a lot of schools, asians are an OVER-represented minority.</p>
<p>Hispanics can be of any race or -in my case, as well as millions of other Latin Americans - people of mixed race. In every Latin American country, there exists a white population. Take for instance Cuba, Argentina and Brazil. Argentina is 95% European (Spanish, Italian, German and Polish, among others). Many, but certainly not all, Cuban-Americans are pure descendants of Spaniards (with other European blood in the mix, in some cases).</p>