URM's at Princeton

<p>I realize that this question could cause some tension, but this is not my intentions. I was just wondering if anyone knew the % of URM's that were accepted ED. I know that Princeton uses race as a factor when deciding admissions (even though its a small factor) and since I am a URM (black female) I was wondering what the percents were.</p>

<p>15% of the minority applicants were admitted to the '08 class, but this includes Asian students,* who are not considered "underrepresented". I don't know what the actual rate for the URMs would be. Still, I'd guess that it's somewhere close to the legacy admit rate.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.princeton.edu/pr/facts/profile/04/08.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.princeton.edu/pr/facts/profile/04/08.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>*I think it does, at least.</p>

<p>Hi Noel. While I don't know the % of URMs in the applicant pool, I can provide you a link to a file containing info about the % of URMs enrolled at princeton.</p>

<p><a href="http://registrar1.princeton.edu/data/oe_items/ug_by_race_ethn.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://registrar1.princeton.edu/data/oe_items/ug_by_race_ethn.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Maybe that will help :)</p>

<p>EDIT: Okay my post has become redundant in light of the above message!</p>

<p>Thanks. I'll Check it out.</p>

<p>Princeton openly admits to using race as a factor in admissions??</p>

<p>Princeton and quite a few other schools, too.....AA is pretty common.</p>

<p>They don't admit underqualified URMs, but being a URM can give a competitive applicant a boost just like legacy status does.</p>

<p>the trick is, to be a legacy AND a URM...muahahahahaha, that way, you get the best of both worlds....</p>

<p>:o sorry, ill go back into my cave now</p>

<p>"They don't admit underqualified URMs..."</p>

<p>I think what actually happens is that they hold URMs to a considerably lower standard. So being a "qualified" URM amounts to being a relatively strong white academic, nothing more. Colleges are forced to lower the bar since truly "outstanding" URMs (equal to white and asian applicants) are a rare breed, indeed. </p>

<p>Also be careful, because there's lots of different levels of achievement for URMs.</p>

<p>Say for example, a poor, black 1300 student is enrolled in a Mississippi public school that rarely ever sends more than a couple of students to college. This student would get it. On the other hand, the Hispanic son of an affluent New Mexico state senator would probably be held to the same standards as white and asian students. Such a student shouldn't even be considered as a URM, I feel, since he has had every opportunity to succeed---maybe even more than the average white applicant.</p>

<p>Before this gets at all out-of-hand, which is likely when AA is brought up, we should probably let this thread die....</p>

<p>But conflict is so fun... ;)</p>

<p>i believe this year's early decision acceptance pool 33% or so were minority students.</p>

<p>yeah, but like someone said earlier, Asians/Asian-Americans are in that category too, which considerably skews that percentage in terms of what Noel is looking for.</p>

<p>And I agree with Kebree. Just let it go for now.</p>

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So being a "qualified" URM amounts to being a relatively strong white academic, nothing more.

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<p>What is your definition of "qualified" in the context of URMs? Score cutt-offs? A certain GPA?</p>

<p>I have no real say in this matter, but I would think a "qualified" URMs would be someone with at least a 1200 and a 3.5 GPA with at least 3 APs. If the course load is weak however, a 4.0 is needed. Also keep in mind that GPAs are not the same at different schools.....a GPA of 3.5 in an inner city Los Angeles high school would probably be a 2.0 in a suburban high school in the cities outside of the main metopolitan area. A URM at an underperforming school would need a 4.0 and some awesome ECs. On the other hand, a URM with multiple APs at a suburban high school with a 4.0 is very competitive, ECs would be icing on the cake. . . . or at least I think so . . . It's all so relative . . . . Either way, make no mistake about it---URMs get in with 3.5s . . . .</p>

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Either way, make no mistake about it---URMs get in with 3.5s . . . .

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and legacies... and athletes...</p>

<p>If you guys click on my link (2nd from top), that will give you the exact breakdown of enrolled students at princeton (black/asian/white etc.) for a 4 year period...... maybe that will help.....</p>

<p>Thanks for the link mercurysquad, but what is the ED acceptance rate for blacks, asians, hispanics, etc.?</p>

<p>To answer your question NoelB - I think the total % of URMs accepted ED was 33%, just need to find the link.</p>

<p>Thanks, for your imput. I really didn't want to start any agruments. I was just wondering.</p>