US bombing another country!!!

<p>Is anybody worried about this like I am? Why oh why are we not hearing about this in the news. I think its pretty important that we are engaging yet another country. </p>

<p>US attack kills 12 in Pakistan
By Farhan Bokhari </p>

<p>Published: September 13 2008 03:00 | Last updated: September 13 2008 03:00</p>

<p>At least 12 people were believed to have been killed yesterday in a US missile attack carried out by a pilotless aircraft on a village in Pakistan's North-West Frontier region, prompting condemnation by the country's officials.</p>

<p>It was the first attack since General Ashfaq Kayani, Pakistan's army chief, said only his country had the right to carry out such attacks on suspected militant targets on its soil.</p>

<p>President George W. Bush is alleged to have secretly approved orders in July for US special forces to launch attacks in Pakistan without the approval of its government. "The coalition forces and the militants are both working to destabilise Pakistan," said Owais Ghani, the governor of the region, after the attack.</p>

<p>Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2008</p>

<p>Same position Obama had. </p>

<p>McCain wisely said that Obama was a naive man.</p>

<p>AFP:</a> McCain jabs Obama as 'naive' on Pakistan, national security</p>

<p>If you haven't yet figured out that Pakistan is the second largest Muslim country, it borders Afghanistan, and has some of the shakiest politics in the world, then you are doomed for.</p>

<p>If you're ever going to find bin Laden (he's probably dead all ready or all ready captured), it's going to have to turn your attention towards that area. The fact Bush is sending more troops that way and even said his goal is catch bin Laden by election day is quite fishy.</p>

<p>OP how come you have 4 billion + posts?</p>

<p>The US has been having attacks over the paki boarder for years, nothing new.</p>

<p>Maybe you haven't figured it out yet, but the U.S. government is the biggest terrorist organization in the world. </p>

<p>Google it. The things they've done that aren't commonly known by any means will shock you.</p>

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<p>I like to talk alot??? No, I was posting about 2 weeks ago late at night and the CC site started acting funny and it just showed up like that. Odd no?</p>

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<p>Wow dr horse! You’re very casual! Hope your family member wasn’t around the area. Apparently the Bush administration thought it was a little more important than you, because they secretly informed the Senate and House they were going to bomb without (important word) the Pakistani government’s knowledge. When the NYT found out, the Bushies leaked it on the night of the hurricane and a Friday night. I heard it once on the news. I happen to think this is important. I do think it’s fishy to start this so close to the election.<br>
I also just heard something about Americans being pulled out of a South American country because they weren’t supporting the war on drugs???? What the heck is he doing?</p>

<p>Don't you know art? Conservatism is a mental illness. You should feel sorry for them. They can't help it.</p>

<p>I assume Dr. Horse has very little family of his own.</p>

<p>I actually have a very large Italian family. But again im just stating the facts. Do I care about other people. More than you think. I just believe in a more traditional way of helping people. Something like the Chinese proverb,</p>

<p>"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."</p>

<p>As for conservatism being a MI, I cant see how its possible because we tend to have the traditional mindset, we go inline with nature and not against it. Mental illness is something that is not natural. sorry pal. Also Mental illness and psychiatry tend to be a newer terms in human history, compared to other disciplines of medicine.</p>

<p>Nothing about man is actually natural at all. We've transcended into societies and civilizations that take us out of nature.</p>

<p>And of course, just like every other conservative in the world, you say you care, but absolutely don't. Of course we can't teach a man to fish if there isn't any public funding for schools, and it would be hard between prayer and recess as well.</p>

<p>Conservatives have a traditional mindset? No, they have more of an obligatory mindset. They stick with the status quo, regardless of what's going on. They adapt to the liberal world, become the liberals of a century ago, and continue on. It doesn't change until they're force to. They follow along, only to find their situation a lot better, but believe its cause of policies from a presidency 10 years in the past.</p>

<p>I guess cancer treatment tends to be a newer term in human history compared to other disciplines of medicine such as prayer.</p>

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<p>And of course, just like every other conservative in the world, you say you care, but absolutely don't. Of course we can't teach a man to fish if there isn't any public funding for schools, and it would be hard between prayer and recess as well.</p>

<p>Conservatives have a traditional mindset? No, they have more of an obligatory mindset. They stick with the status quo, regardless of what's going on. They adapt to the liberal world, become the liberals of a century ago, and continue on. It doesn't change until they're force to. They follow along, only to find their situation a lot better, but believe its cause of policies from a presidency 10 years in the past.</p>

<p>I guess cancer treatment tends to be a newer term in human history compared to other disciplines of medicine such as prayer.

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<p>Everything about man is natural as we are products of nature. Even though we live in civilized world, doesn't mean we are out of nature. Saying such is like saying groundhogs aren't with nature because they have systems of underground tunnels or hippos aren't with nature because they form herds. We are still humans and still fall under and obey the laws of nature, so we are again part and a product of nature. </p>

<p>I do care, I would say in a argument to yours that Liberals really could care less. They preach and force a welfare state which gives up liberties and created a dependence on government. Man was meant to be free, not controlled and forced into doing what one doesn't want to do. I have read the constitution many times over, and I still cant seem to find anywhere where the word education appears. H mm, maybe the founding fathers, relized federally regulated education is a bad thing, thus why we are no where near the top in the world, while supposedly being the worlds current only super power. We are a nation of idiots. The American citizen does nothing anymore, everything great in America is by immigrants which has been true throughout our History. </p>

<p>The word conservative is defined as</p>

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<p>To preserve what is established. It doesn't mean that we don't or don't want to change, it simply means we question changes and would rather change slower than radically. You mention the presidency of 10 years past, if you are referring to Bush, well he again as I have said many times is not a conservative. Hes a neoconservative which has ties much closer to liberalism that to traditional/fiscal conservatism.</p>

<p>Want a good argument against Welfare, watch CNN's Black in America and then if you can read from prominent black conservatives like Bill Cosby, Larry Elder and Shelby Steele. Welfare has solely destroyed the black nuclear family in America, forced and increased racism onto black males and made them completely irrelevant as a father. Welfare doesn't help people, well i should change that, and instead say it doesn't help those whom it was intended to help, but it does greatly help those created and sponsor such a system or state.</p>

<p>I must also say that I do believe in helping people. Just not in the way of giving money to the government for them to redistribute. I believe in local charities and sponsor groups that help the local area. A recent publication by the Hudson group showed Americans give more on top of taxes than the government gives from taxes all together. So all the money our government gives out, the American citizen still gives more than that, and that sum that they give does not include their taxes. I again believe in Small government with no income tax or any tax for that matter except excise taxes. Im pretty sure if you have people back 30-50% of their income, they would be pretty willing to give more away. </p>

<p>But hey if you want the big government and the all of the corruption that goes with it, that's cool to. Its your opinion, and its fine and I respect it.</p>

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Maybe you haven't figured it out yet, but the U.S. government is the biggest terrorist organization in the world.</p>

<p>Google it. The things they've done that aren't commonly known by any means will shock you.

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<p>Maybe you haven't figured it out yet, but that's the biggest load of bull**** in the world.</p>

<p>Like someone else said, we have been targeting Al Qaeda terrorists in Pakistan for years. Nothing new. The problem is that Al Qaeda launches attacks on our soldiers and then hops back across the border to Pakistan knowing that we can't follow them. Not on the ground, but certainly we can in the air.</p>