<p>Hi, I was wondering if anyone is subscribed to the College Compass on the US News website and could share the latest undergraduate rankings for electrical engineering. The first 9 are available for all to see, but the remaining 8 are not. Just curious, and would really appreciate it!</p>
<p>thanks, Andrew</p>
<p>It’s eight Devrys. Go figure.</p>
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<p>+1 internets</p>
<p>no itt’s??? you could at least tell me which devrys</p>
<p>If it’s important enough for you to know then it’s important enough to cough up the few dollars they ask to buy access. It really is unethical to do otherwise.</p>
<p>M</p>
<p>lol unethical…I’m not holding anyone at gunpoint. And I’ve seen people share the rankings in the past.</p>
<p>is it unethical to discuss news that you read online with your online subscription - with someone that does not pay to receive it???</p>
<p>Depends on how your rights to that news is spelled out in the eula and the law.</p>
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<p>And that somehow makes it right?</p>
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Research copyright laws and “fair use.” Also, look into the terms of service that was agreed upon with the subscription.</p>
<p>The discussion of news is not illegal of course. However, reprinting articles or substantial portions of them would be a violation of copyright laws.</p>
<p>It doesn’t make it right, but it has successfully been shared on public forums in the past without anyone losing their life or being arrested. Besides, legality does not dictate ethics. All I’m doing is asking whether someone is willing to share one feature of the College Compass, which I’m sure offers more than just college rankings. I can just imagine what a sleepover at your house would’ve been like as a kid. Did you deny your friends dinner, a place to sleep and entertainment? Where do you draw the line as to what can be shared? Not to mention, it’s someone’s choice as to whether they want to share the rankings or not.</p>
<p>From Wikipedia “Ethics, also known as moral philosophy, is a branch of philosophy that involves systematizing, defending, and recommending concepts of right and wrong conduct.”</p>
<p>And, from your first sentence, “It doesn’t make it right, but…”</p>
<p>By your own definition of the situation, your request is unethical. Ethical dilemmas are not always life or death. In fact they rarely are. Nor are they about your perception of harm to others. They are about deciding right from wrong.</p>
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<p>OP: Well, if you pay me then I will share the info “exclusively” with you…is it still unethical? go figure…</p>
<p>eyemgh: No, because it also doesn’t make it wrong. There’s territory in between right and wrong. Ethics is based on how much harm, or potential harm, you do to others no matter how you cut it. And like I said, ultimately, the person has the choice of whether they want to share their information or not. That to me is the big difference. This is a simple issue of sharing, and sharing is widely accepted in our society.</p>
<p>Jan2013: That is not unethical. You’re the one with the power in this situation, not me. If I forced you, then it would be unethical.</p>
<p>Jan2013, it’s not yours to sell, only yours to access, personally. </p>
<p>OP, below is the USNWR copyright section of the terms and conditions of access. It looks pretty clear. Sharing with anyone via any medium violates the agreement the purchaser signed to buy access. So, yes, it is unethical to share as it violates the conditions the purchaser agreed to to gain access.</p>
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<p>And of course, the number one reason you shouldn’t post it here completely circumvents the debate about ethics and copyright law. It has to do with the fact that it is, technically, prohibited by the site terms of service to which we all agreed when signing up. That rule frequently gets broken, but it is still a rule.</p>
<p>I wonder how many engineers who went the 2+2 path or attended some school not in the USNR Top-50 are kicking over laughing at these posts that agonize of rankings.</p>
<p>That really is the bigger issue. USNWR rankings are fairly bogus based on their methodology, but nowhere is said methodology weaker than in the undergraduate engineering rankings, where the “rank” is based 100% on institutional reputation.</p>
<p>Don’t sweat the rankings too much. The various lists provide helpful data points, along with other college research methods. The exact rankings should be taken with a grain of salt. </p>
<p>DS attends a school that is often highly ranked on Engineering lists. It is an excellent program and a great fit for him. We might not know about it except for the theme of bumping into it on various ranking lists etc. However… for many other students it would be too small/limiting.</p>
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