<p>No clue on the prediction. But as for the Niche rankings, thats an “overall ranking” made with student reviews that takes into account everything (social life, parking, greek life, food) and some of those things don’t have anything to do with the actual education/ prestige. </p>
<p>The preview was released this morning listing the top #25 national universities in alphabetical order. Actual ranking will be posted on September 9th. SC was listed in the top 25. One university dropped out of the 25 and that is Wake Forest University.</p>
<p>I am annoyed that we are floundering somewhat in the overall rankings… as opposed to shooting up year after year after year, although as many have said in different ways, once you get into the domain of REAL schools, it’s harder to climb.</p>
<p>BTW I wouldn’t necessarily make the claim that UCLA is “better” than USC. These rankings are out of the 4000 or so college and universities in America, so saying that #23 is better than #25 is an exercise in splitting hairs. Within the top tier, most people don’t care much about a difference of one or two slots and there are plenty of other reasons for choosing a particular school.</p>
<p>FWIW USC again ranked #1 in the world this year in the Hollywood Reporter rankings of film schools.</p>
<p>Oh and I’m actually somewhat in agreement with Seattle TW in having a panic attack in looking at the rankings, not necessarily because of where we landed but because U.S. News reports USC as having an overall enrollment of 41,368 students. That’s absolutely ridiculous. The student body shouldn’t be more than 30,000 students as the university flat out doesn’t have nearly enough housing and admitting students from all across the world that you can’t house is disingenuous and irresponsible if not immoral because the lack of housing combined with exorbitant tuition is where you get students living in cheap but sketchy situations and that’s when the shootings happen.</p>
<p>Difference between USC and UCLA is 1 point based on total points awarded. I think a more encouraging ranking is USC ranked 5 as an up and coming school which is defined as the most promising and innovative changes in the areas of academics, faculty and student life. </p>
<p>The up and coming ranking is nice - USC has been on that list for years - as it reflects the dynamism that’s baked into USC’s DNA and the culture of all of California to begin with. Also worth noting is that USC again is highly ranked (#4) for its economic diversity among top 25 universities. My frustration though is that the only metric there that U.S. News employs is the percentage of students on Pell Grants (read: low income) but that just encourages schools to have an economically bipolar student body, with full-pays and Pell Grant kids and nothing in the middle.</p>
<p>BTW Northeastern is also on the list of up and coming schools and has been a side panel on my College Confidential web page for a few weeks. Their president, Joseph Aoun (?), is a former dean of USC’s college.</p>
<p>I think the endowment campaign is going to be the big game changer. The question is how USC continues to climb and ever-steeper terrain and that definitely requires money to start. But at the very minimum, the university is at least consistently making the U.S. News top 25, which is nice.</p>
<p>As a fact, USC is still way lower ranked than UCLA in most other major rankings
except this USNews. So as long as SC can hold on this inside Top-25 year after year,
it’s already a positive sign, showing the school’s real strength
and not just playing with numbers-game as often being accused.</p>
<p>How many schools have actually broken into Top-25 then risen inside Top-20/Top-15
in the past decades of this ranking’s existence? It’s a hurculean task for any schools.</p>
<p>It’s like waiting for the football ranking to come out…fun to see and debate but they are just moving furniture in the dinning room. Most everyone agrees on the top 25 but would move a few up or down a few spots and of course their school should be bumped up. My editorial:
*Stanford should be moved up.
*Cal-Tech is a one-on-one engineering research center not a national university and should be removed and placed into another category.
*Long in the tooth universities: UPENN, JHU, Emory, Georgetown, Cornell should drop a few spots.
*Up and coming: Vanderbilt, USC, NDU, Rice, Duke, Northwestern need to move up a spot or two.
*Methodology hurts these universities: CAL-B, UVA, UCLA should move up a spot or two.
*Brown would not be in the top 20 if it was not in the ivy league.</p>
<p>I had no panic attack but firmly believe our exploding size counterbalanced our lower admit rate. We are too large for our modest infrastructure and the village will only encourage more growth. What was the ranking for up and coming schools?</p>