They didn’t say that - 12% changed category - for all we know, 6% were national to regional, and 6% was regional to national, making for a complete wash.
I predict lots of great college and universities will be ranked below 50. And LAC will be discussed much less the National Universities.
I predict that at least a few high school seniors will choose to cross a school off their list because it fell a rank or two.
If our schools go up the rankings will be valid, otherwise they’re biased against them.
There are 30 schools that moved up to Doctoral Universities.
Meaning 30 new schools in the National University category including Villanova.
Looking at the common data set, I think Johns Hopkins will at least stay at ten OR actually go higher. Many ranking indicators for JHU have increased yet again. I think the school doesn’t intend to stop until it reaches the top 5. But who knows – maybe I’m being too optimistic.
Actually, @ClarinetDad16 Northeastern ** dropped ** in rankings last year. They were 42 in the 2015 USNews and 47 in the 2016 USNews.
Will Elon finally be considered a national university? After all, it only gets 80% of its students from out of state. Wait, that’s right, to quote: ‘Regional Universities offer a full range of undergraduate programs and provide graduate education at the master’s level. However, they differ by offering few, if any, doctoral programs.’ No doctoral, like pretty much every LAC.
The definition for regional or national is per the Carnegie Classification.
OK, I didn’t know that, about Carnegie. But why would Morse and USNews are about that? Haven’t they created their own methodology? The rankings are for undergrad institutions. Why not put Villanova and Elon and such in with the nationals?
USNWR uses the Carnegie classification as their categorization. Carnegie does not rank schools, it classifies them by type.
All of my children’s in-state options (Alaska) will continue to be RNP or low regional, so I’ll pretty much shrug and move forward with life unchanged.
I like Forbes better anyway. It kinder and fairer to Reed!
It’s based on research categories. Villanova had enough PHDs to minimally qualify for the National University category for the first time.
Is there a list of the 30 colleges that will now be considered National Universities?
i personally don’t think rankings any ranking from 40+ isn’t really going make much of a difference with a person who goes to a university ranked around 70+… employers aren’t going to jump up and down just because a university ranked 48 is now ranked 40???
Let me repeat what I meant to say (my grammar sucks in that other post and I don’t think I conveyed what I was tryign to say well). To be more clearer, any changes in the national rankings at this point isn’t really that big of deal ( unless of course, a school like harvard goes down 10 ranks)). I think this holds true, especially as you go down further and approach nationally ranked schools that are ranked 35 and higher. so i really don’t think it’s worth it to rave about the rankings when honestly, any changes at this point aren’t going to really going to make an impact by the general public… I think the same applies to any regionally ranked schools… Do you really think employers or the general public are going to care that much that your regionally ranked school is now 4 ranks higher? (Not trying to bash any schools or be condescending to any schools that are regionally ranked…)
Employers don’t pay any attention to college rankings. They recruit based on location (many companies only recruit locally or regionally) and past experience with graduates from that school. If previous graduates have performed well, they will go back to get more.
@me29034 Exactly lmao which is why i dont understand why people care so much that their school’s rankingon the USnewsgoes up. Employers in general are still going to hold the same belief about the school they’re hirign from (like harvard example, even though it dropped from #1 to #2 a few years ago, does that really matter in the end??)
No, employers don’t care if Harvard is 1or 2. They wouldn’t care if it were 10 or 20. The vast majority of employers never look at college rankings.