@privatebanker you say “No way is harder to get into any public as an instate student than the average GTown admit.” and I’m not so sure I can agree with you there.
GTown Acceptance Rate 14%, SAT range: 1410-1540, GPA: Don’t say, but 92% graduated in top 10% of class. 1,600 enroll.
UCLA Acceptance Rate: 12%, SAT range: 1370-1540, GPA: 4.31-4.66. 6.200 enroll.
@KTJordan78 it would be interesting to see that comparison if you took out UCLA’s Engineering College.
Just saw the 2% admit rate for UCLA School of Nursing. That makes HPY look like a cakewalk.
If the tables at the above links are correct (and my spreadsheet ability):
Biggest gains: Kentucky +15, Pitt and Florida State +13, Tennessee +11, Indiana and Buffalo +10
Biggest declines: Colorado St -26, Clark and Vermont -25, Alabama -24, Illinois Tech -21, New Hampshire and Pacific -19
Biggest gains in the top 70: Pitt and Florida State +13, Georgia Tech and Mass Amherst +6, Northwestern, Rochester, UC San Diego, Tulane, Northeastern +4
Biggest declines in the top 70: Pacific -25, UC Santa Cruz, BYU -14, GW -7, Rutgers -6, Brandeis, WPI -5
(For what “overall rankings” are worth Which, to me, isn’t very much)
Biggest 5 year gains: Howard +41, Florida State +38, Buffalo +24, UC Riverside +22
Biggest 5 year decline: Alabama -65. Yeshiva -49, Colorado State -45, Missouri and Nebraska -40
Biggest 5 year gains now in the Top 70: Florida State +38, Florida and Tulane +14, Georgia and Mass Amherst +12
Biggest 5 year declines from the Top 70: Yeshiva -49, GW and Fordham -16, BYU -15, Washington -14, Lehigh -10
The only other interesting data point going back 10 years is Northeastern moving up 40 (mostly 2005-2010)
What caused such a massive decline?
@Eeyore123 . . . Wrt UCLA, the link I read says 50 spots with about, say, 60 acceptances at 2% acceptance rate for the 3,000 apps.
The film/theatre program only admits ~ 15/year as freshmen, and also has a low acceptance rate. But neither is completely stats driven; TFT is portfolio- or performance-driven; nursing is completely holistic (edit: as) its essay is the most important.
Just to show that stats aren’t as important for UCLA’s theatre department and nursing, here are the xfers:
Major…Applicants…Accepted/Rate…Enrolled…25th/75th GPA
Film/TV…663…13/2%…12…3.64/3.97
Theatre…263…13/5%…13…3.43/3.75
Nursing…164…11/7%…10…3.56/3.88
The average xfer enrollee to UCLA has 25th/75th of 3.63/3.93 and a 23% acceptance rate, so higher acceptance rate but comparable or much higher stats.
@ProfessorPlum168 . . . I agree with your post #62. The world of higher edumacation is going to webcast. Hopefully, this will drive down the costs at least a bit. This would mean someone could be in a different country and be enrolled at a University of California campus. One of the questions would be, say, what to do about life-science labs; maybe coordinated with, say, a Spanish student at the University of Madrid.
“Biggest gains: Kentucky +15, Pitt and Florida State +13, Tennessee +11, Indiana and Buffalo +10”
University of Utah is also +15 from 119 to 104.
This begs the question if the only thing that has changed significantly in the USNWR criteria over the last few years is social mobility (and it has had some made some fairly drastic ranking changes for some schools), then the other criteria must generate fairly close scores between quite a number of schools. However, there still could be some huge gaps between groups of schools. Still. no way I will ever think that UC Merced is as academically good or better then the state flagships that it appears to be “tied” with. Heck I wouldn’t even consider it tied with Alabama.
https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2019/09/09/uc-riverside-reaches-no-1-social-mobility
UC Riverside alumnus…had the biggest jump of 39 spots in the nation last year (#85 national, #35 public). Dropped a little this year ((#91 national, #39 public) even though #1 in nation on Social Mobility Index (UCSC #2 in this…down 14 overall, and UCI #3…down a few overall). Pretty Amazing that UC Merced up 29 last year and up another 32 this year! That may be biggest gain in nation this year! Up 61 spots last 2 years… very impressive for UC Merced!
“GTown Acceptance Rate 14%, SAT range: 1410-1540, GPA: Don’t say, but 92% graduated in top 10% of class. 1,600 enroll.
UCLA Acceptance Rate: 12%, SAT range: 1370-1540, GPA: 4.31-4.66. 6.200 enroll”
Just looking at admit rates can be misleading since I can say anecdotally that the caliber of kids applying to Georgetown is stronger than applying to UCLA. iirc, Georgetown has its own app, requires 3 subject tests, stresses service, so their applicant pool is smaller and again, I think, better. Lot of kids just click on UCLA when applying to the UCs, and say hey it’s just $45, why not? Since Georgetown uses EA, RD yield may be a better way of comparing, there UCLA at 39%, Georgetown at 50%.
Are these stats for * in-state* applicants to UCLA?
In 2019, UCLA had 111,266 total applications and 13,747 acceptances for a 12.4% acceptance rate:
California acceptance rate 12%
OOS acceptance rate 16.5%
International acceptance rate 8.5%
@socaldad2002 Thanks. 111k apps! Incredible!
California is a very populous state.
And yet UCLA still received 41,708 applications (OOS and International) NOT from CA!
China is populous too!
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Elon, U Mass Amherst, and Santa Clara University impressive… well into Top 100 Nationally.
UCLA received the same number of applications as Harvard, Yale, and Princeton COMBINED. Just to put it in perspective.
UCLA’s large application number probably has more to do with the ease of application than interest. All nine UCs share the same application; its just a matter of checking boxes for different campuses, and they don’t require LORs either.
If HYP and Ivies share the same application I bet the application number would at least triple at those schools.