<p>That's how contributors should be, nice and polite. He wasn't being attacked directly. If he continues to post such hate material, he will be tagged as intolerant....not cool....Please, read the messages in the beginning. Please see this not as a reprimand but instead as a means to ENLIGHTEN you.</p>
<p>speedo: I beg to disagree. There is no such thing as a Wesleyan syndrome. Oberlin syndrome maybe. In my college search when I say Wesleyan or Ohio Wesleyan, people always ask me "But isn't that a womens' college?" I think 95% of the people outside of New England or the Midwest don't know about the existence of the school or associate it with their state local christian college. You get a good education at either of these schools but most people don't know about them to associate a word with a syndrome for anything.</p>
<p>But see, no one even mentions Wesleyan and OWU in the same breath. Hell, I'd never -heard- of OWU until its lackeys started invading my threads. This is not "hate speech." I'm not picking on people's ethnicites or religions here. This is, and was, me imploring ... to cease his tireless crusade against Wesleyan. </p>
<p>As to why a multitude of OWU posters all show up at the same time and run the same "I'm not being unreasonable, you're being unreasonable ... MORON!" line, I do not know. I do know that no one from the Wesleyan community has ever barged into your forums and talked smack about your school, so I continue to question why you people (or person) feel this is necessary.</p>
<p>If it were one incident, I obviously wouldn't care. In fact, I was amused at first (and still am, to a degree). But it gets tiresome when it happens over and over. There is no connection or rivalry whatsoever between these schools, so just let it go.</p>
<p>It wouldn't surprise me at all if this (including all their screennames) wasn't an actual OWU person. These attacks only seem to happen when Wesleyan is perceived as doing well. Notice, no one bothers to attack schools with far woolier reputations than Wesleyan (Evergreen State, Marlboro, Bard, etc.) The logical target for someone from OWU would be Oberlin; not some school with barely an overlap admittance between them.</p>
<p>no-one is attacking anyone. Folks are simply replying to a thread started by xmatt. You just don't agree with their opinions. Wesleyan is a good school, but like Oberlin it loses out to a number of other schools that have more moderate reps. I don't know much about OWU, but it is not competitive with Wesleyan for applicants. I do think all the defensiveness is a definite marker for Wesleyan Syndrome however. I hear the only successful treatment is transferring.</p>
<p>Call it what you want, but making unfounded assertions, then calling the other side "defensive" when they easily bat them down with the facts, is a well-worn Ivy League debate tactic. Even if you're not from OWU, we can at least narrow it down to Dartmouth, Brown, Columbia or one of the lesser Ivies. No one ever said, Wesleyan had a 90% yield rate; but, last time I checked the Revealed Preference rankings, Wesleyan outpolled just as many so-called "moderate" colleges as it was outpolled by. Prestige (or, it's perception) is what drives these polls--not political affiliation.</p>
<p>you've made it clear with the "no thanks" in one of your last posts (as well as in your posts as owugenius, hsseniorwhatever, and stud05 (any relation to peter05 from the owu threads?)) that wesleyan just isn't for you. that's great, and we all respect that. now, please just let it go. no one here is asking you to go to wesleyan or to even post a positive comment about the school.</p>
<p>though your hateful obsession with wesleyan is weird, you and all those other personas are entitled to their opinions, other-wesleyan syndromes, etc. i wish you good luck whether you're in high school, college, grad school, or elsewhere.</p>
<p>p.s. returning sophomores at wes is 96%; graduating in 4 years 84%; graduating in 6 years 92%. i guess most students aren't seeking the treatment you hear of.</p>
<p>Look at it from the point of view of a 50 year old parent. I'm going to be paying full price and some - $50,000 a year. I can pay it but what for? I can see paying that for Harvard, Yale and a few others. I may even pay it for Syracuse or NYU. Or one of the top art or music schools (even the Oberlin music school) but why for Wesleyan. Maybe Swarthmore, Williams or Amherst. Maybe even Middlebury if my child was into languages, but Wesleyan has no selling point. I can send my kid with a fat scholarship to any number of LACs or to the honors college at my state u. But I'm just not paying it for "naked dorms". Everytime I say my kid goes to Wesleyan, my friends (some of whom went to Wesleyan) are going to make some inane comment about it. I'm not putting up the money to put up with that crap. Wesleyan needs to change its image if it wants my money on board. I want folks to say, "That's a great school", not "HA Ha Ha" It's kind of become an embarrassment.</p>
<p>okay. hang on, let me call my parents and ask.</p>
<p>just as i suspected, my parents have no problem shelling out the dough and going into debt for me to go to wesleyan for the next four years. they were quite impressed with the place each time we visited. they also have no problem with me turning down brown and swarthmore for wes. they've heard about the supposed naked dorm, too. we had a chuckle about it, but they're far too busy, bright, and deep to let something like that cloud their judgment about the place.</p>
<p>anything else before you let this one go, speedowugeniushsseniorstud05? your posts are becoming progressively more desperate.</p>
<p>They may be bright and deep and all that but I'll bet they're not paying the full nut. Why don't you call them again and ask. You're probably getting a fair amount of fin aid and that changes the decision making process. That's why a lot of the need based schools are popular. If you have to pay 50 a year it changes your outlook.</p>
<p>read my posts, and you'll find the answer to this. and if you quote one of my posts, don't take what i've written out of context. that's m.o. for people with weak arguments and even weaker skills in articulating them. yeah, wesleyan is giving a little more than the rest, but not enough for that to be the deciding factor. my parents are still paying a good 80% of the price tag. my parents are going to make a huge sacrifice to let me go where i want, so please don't insult my parents again, even in your most subtle way.</p>
<p>pretty cheap shot in implying that less wealthier students always have to go with the money. like i said, your posts are getting pretty desperate.</p>
<p>We gladly paid full tuition for our D to go there, and feel it's one of the best investments we ever made. Her brother is now at an Ivy, getting a great education, just about as good as hers.</p>