USC has the most potential of any other school in the world if it can fix these

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<li><p>Spring admits-their sat scores arn't counted ( i met someone with a 1850 score....) Its not just one or 2 its hundreds. People with lower academic standards are let in through spring admits.</p></li>
<li><p>Size-a school with tens of thousands obviously has less resources per person than a school like Pomona. Cut size= less revenue, but most resources for each student. This allows each student to be nurtured and achieve max potential. Furthermore, this is MUCH better for graduate school admissions. Small schools like Swarthmore have an incredible amount of students go to top 5 grad schools. In the long run, this is what make the trojan family strong-not sheer size. </p></li>
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<p>For example, while Princeton has a tiny class and small numbers of alumni, each member is highly connected and well off. Quality>quantity.</p>

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<li><p>Sports -I never understood why usc develops varsity athletic facilities when academic majors like German are cut. Seriously...top tier school? What other basic majors will usc cut? If usc ever wants to be in the same league of other CA schools like stanford, it cant sacrifice academics for sports. I LOVE football, but I LOVE academics more.</p></li>
<li><p>Transfers-no other school that is top 25 lets in as many transfers. USC needs to at least evaluate sat scores but doesn't even consider them for junior transfers. I dont think sats mean anything, but when the peen battles in academic rankings occurs, these 4 factors do hurt peoples perceptions of usc, this hurts alot. People know USC is exceptionally easy to transfer into from a california CC, where students get straight A's using rate my professors as a bible. </p></li>
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<p>This has personally affected my academic experience at USC. A transfer in a chem lecture would consistently waste the time of hundreds of students with questions on concepts that were obviously covered in chem 1 last semester. Looks like his community college A's were really deserved.</p>

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<li><p>Low endowment. Yes, USC has a high total endowment but anyone with a brain can figure out that number distributed by 25,000 students is tiny. I think USC isn't even top 50 for endowment per student. USC's endowment is about 1/4 of Stanfords...whats that say about Trojan alumni?</p></li>
<li><p>Weak alumni contributing. Even schools like washu, emory have higher endowments TOTAL. And those schools are TINY compared to USC. The alumni base for WASHU is 1/10 of the size of USC, but it contributes more in per person values and total.</p></li>
<li><p>Public school kids- USC has affirmitive action of many public schools in ghetto areas in california. These kids also waste the time of hundreds of students with high school level questions. I know this is harsh, but USC needs to take more % of its students from private schools if it wishes to catch up to schools like stanford in academics.</p></li>
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<p>Again, I as well as many kids from my lecture have been robbed of valuable lecture time with high school level questions (such as about wohler synthesis). I have always made an effort to meet these kids after and offer help, and low and behold -all from public schools from the area. I have never met a kid from Harvard-Westlake waste my time. USC needs to take even bottom level kids from to private schools, rather than try to bolster it's diversity with pity admits from public schools. </p>

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<li>Less regulation of parties. Even registered parties have been shut down by DPS this past year....</li>
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<p>Other than these factors, I believe the momentum USC has is truly great. I believe the administration really needs to implement some radical changes for USC to be on par with a school like stanford, but it absolutely can be done.</p>

<p>1, 2, 3 and 4 completely conflict with point 5. HOW do you expect to have a larger endowment if you want to cut ALL of the main sources of capital for USC?
6 ties directly into #5 - USC actually receives quit a lot of contributions from alumni.
7. Public schools do not necessarily denote lack of academic capability. On the flip-side, being from a private school does not mean that you are intelligent, either.
8. What does this have to do with the University?</p>

<p>You know what? Against my better judgement, I’ll address each and every one of your points. And the logical fallacies I see. I’ve worked for an USC department and have seen into the inner workings for the university for at least that year.</p>

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<li><p>Spring Admits - Where is your source that they are not counted…? As for 1850 SAT score, what was their major? Did they submit the ACT instead? One of the most talented architecture students I know received a 1700 on their SAT… not that it matters because for their field, it’s irrelevant.</p></li>
<li><p>You cannot honestly expect a university like USC to be able to operate on the same scale as a school like Swarthmore or Pomona. There is something called economies of scale - It is not practical to offer majors if there are only 30 kids in the major; if you choose to cut class sizes, you will be forced to cut majors as well. For an university that is seeking excellence in all fields, not only would this destroy the amount of resources available, it would not be feasible with the way the university is structured with multiple departments operating independently. If you doubt my claims that reducing the class size would negatively impact the resources available, then get this - Of the university’s $1.9 billion in revenue each year, $1.6 billion comes from tuition.</p></li>
<li><p>Let’s see what sports do for the university…
A. Recognition - Publicity for the university. Check.
B. Revenue - Royalties, Licensing, Tickets. Check.
C. Alumni - Events to invite alumni to? Create a connection to the university even post-graduation? Check.
D. Academia - Top ranked Occupational/Physical Therapy programs? Marshall’s Sports Science Institute? Check and Check.
I could go on and on… oh, by the way. The removal of certain majors has NOTHING to do with the sports programs - Each department has their own budget for the year, and the athletics side of the university does not get a say in what happens on the academics side… so it’s not like they went hey, the water polo team needs more funding, let’s axe German.</p></li>
<li><p>So you’re letting one transfer student determine your perception of the whole transfer class? Again, I’m not sure where your source is on that quote. USC wasn’t even on the US News Ranking of colleges with the most transfer students… [Most</a> Transfer Students | Rankings | US News](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/most-transfers/spp%2B50]Most”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/most-transfers/spp%2B50)</p></li>
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<p>To be fair though, Fall 2012’s transfer class would be #37 on that list at 1,660. Not that being a transfer student necessarily means that you are any less capable than your four-year peers.</p>

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<li><p>USC’s Fas Regna Trojae campaign is one of the most ambitious campaigns launched by any University in recent history… and It’s had success. Billion-dollar endowments don’t pop up overnight, though, and if you’re comparing USC to the Ivies that are much older and established + have a longer history of academic excellence… I’m not quite sure what you expected to find. I would also like to learn what ideas you had to help with increasing the endowment, especially combined with slashing USC’s capital stream.</p></li>
<li><p>Again, I would love to hear some ideas on what we can do to get alumni to shell out more dough! After all, only 203,619 donors have made campaign gifts totaling a measly $2.27 billion to date. [<a href=“http://campaign.usc.edu/][/url”>http://campaign.usc.edu/][/url</a>]</p></li>
<li><p>What? I came from a public school, and I outperformed many private school kids that I’ve met… Your intelligence and capability so succeed does not depend on whether or not you went to a private school. P.S. - 44% of USC’s students are from private schools.</p></li>
<li><p>What? I… I’m not going to address this point.</p></li>
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<p>You identified problems? provide solutions.</p>

<p>It honestly sounds to me like you’re just trying to portray some “issues” you’ve seen in your lectures as crippling problems that the university HAS to fix…</p>

<p>While your points are not wrong, why don’t we have a little more ambition? I see USC with top school potential. Also, please don’t use “top school” liberally-from the way ive seen that phrase thrown around community colleges would be top schools.</p>

<p>The recent fundraising campain has gained some money, but only 200,000 alumni have made significant contributions? why is this? where are the other MILLIONS ? Where are the top alumni that other schools have like Bloomberg, Obama etc? Why is it that stanford, with a fraction of the alumni manages to raise twice the money?</p>

<p>[Stanford</a> Sets College Fundraising Record, But Many School Endowments Remain Sluggish](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost)</p>

<p>USC isnt as old as ivies yes, but that is ultimately an excuse. colleges like Emory, Washu, and stanford arn’t either but they have managed to produce a small number of highly sucessful and loyal alumns. USC needs to slowly shift to this model. </p>

<p>I want USC to be a top 10 school becuase it has the potential to be. Brilliant students and professors. USC needs to stop pulling out the “oh well the ivies are older” garbage because just look at stanford…founded similar date to USC yet has a 12 BILLION dollar endowment. in the same timeframe, why has usc failed to raise 1/3 of that?</p>

<p>Cutting students=less revenue in short run, but more alumni contributions in the long run. This has clearly seen in small but fierce alumni base schools like Princeton, Stanford etc.</p>

<p>Seriously though. Why does USC accept just being californias #2 or 3 school? Why is any comparison to Stanford, a school founded AFTER USC quickly dismissed? Does everyone just accept that USC will never be as overall strong as stanford? If so, why?</p>

<p>Agreed on all points and well said…President Nikias is the main problem, IMO. He’s got to go…</p>

<p>Given the fact that USC has enjoyed arguably the greatest surge in reputation over the past two decades of all major universities, the discussion of why USC does not try to improve rings a bit hollow.</p>

<p>Brojan, weren’t you intent on transferring out of USC just a few months ago saying it was a huge disappointment to you after you had transferred in? Grass was greener in North Carolina if memory serves? I don’t have time to ■■■■■ people’s past posts like some here do, but I remember you (I think it was you). What changed your mind?</p>

<h1>7 is disgusting and so incorrect. I’m considering how you got into USC with such a myopic view. Private school does not mean better. I went to a private school my whole life until high school and the kids from my public high school are much smarter than the kids from my private school.</h1>

<p>This lust for some illusory idea of prestige that USC students have on this website is starting to become very silly.</p>

<p>Also, “SC needs to take more % of its students from private schools”? Give me a break you elitist buffoon.</p>

<p>You’re right SnowDog, USC is allegedly brojan’s third college in three years (couple of state schools then SC I think). Apparently he hates it wherever he is; a few months ago he was all hopped up on transferring to North Carolina.</p>

<p>One of his big complaints is that USC’s transfer policy hurts the reputation of the school because the applicants aren’t of adequate quality. In short, he’s complaining about SC accepting people like him; you have to admit, that’s a pretty compelling argument.</p>

<p>There was a recent article regarding the growing number of universities that dropped German as one of their language choices. At SC it was not economics, as I recall. It was lack of interest by students. Students were much more interested in taking Asian languages, particularly Chinese. SC has choices in language instruction.</p>

<p>Choices:</p>

<p>French
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
English
Italian
Spanish
Russian</p>

<p>I think students can also study Hebrew in the Judaic Studies major.</p>

<p>keignat,</p>

<p>Some posters who make a habit of posting negative comments about the university are not always students. Anyone can select a moniker and post on this forum.</p>

<p>I kind of agree with 1, 3, and 4. Every time I’ve come across a student that didn’t seem to be quite on-par with the rest of the people here, they’ve been a spring admit, a transfer, or a legacy student. I’m not in the admissions office making the decisions, but it seems to me that these students weren’t held up to the same level of high standards as the rest of us. That’s not to say that all of those students aren’t qualified to be here, it’s just that SC seems to have let too many borderline students slip in by utilizing these policies. Also, yes. Sports are emphasized too much in comparison to academic areas like dramatic arts and certain languages. But that happens in many, many schools. It’s not just a USC problem.</p>

<p>That being said, 7 is horribly offensive and incorrect. I’m not going to go so far as to say it’s inherently classist or racist, but it’s certainly elitist snobbery. Like so many other commenters on this thread, I went to public school and I feel that many of my public school peers who went on to top-notch schools are just as intelligent and educated as people I know from private high schools.</p>

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<li>This is another controversy for another thread entirely. I’ll just say that there are some things about USC parties that officers need to let up on, and other things that they need to pay much more attention to when deciding whether or not to intervene.</li>
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<p>And as for 2, it depends on the major program and its required classes. I feel like all my classes are pretty small (except for GEs). I get the amount of attention I need, and all my professors know me by name and genuinely want me to succeed. I know that’s not how it is in every major, but let’s not assume that the whole university is overlooking its students and their individual needs.</p>

<p>So wait brojan is a transfer ragging on other transfers? I guess it was good enough to let him transfer into the school and no one else.</p>

<p>That’s right stanx89, look up some of his other posts. He says he spent freshman year at some state school, sophomore year at his state’s flagship, junior year at USC and a few months ago was looking into transferring to North Carolina among other places. In one year at SC he’s decided he hates LA, has gotten into an altercation with a suite-mate and thinks all his fellow classmates are stupid and lazy. In short, brojan = ■■■■■.</p>

<p>Brojan is actually a bruin.</p>

<p>I actually tansferred to Notre Dame but I still think usc has potential!</p>

<p>i went to harvard westlake so it has always been my local school</p>

<p>@vinceh I agree Brojan is a mega ■■■■■. He said he transferred from a cal state which is a state school to UCLA or Berkeley which are the flagships in California. To USC and now too Notre dame? I call ********. This dude is obviously a ■■■■■ looking for responses out of people. He is probably not even a student at any of these schools. Or has ever been a student at any of these schools. </p>

<p>Plus I am almost certain with enrollment limitations and restrictions of schools especially the UC system. He did not transfer as many times as he said he did. Now he is at Notre dame give me a break already. Do us a favor and quit trolling the threads looking for responses out of people. You think one would make sure to cover all his bases before trolling. Straight rookie.</p>

<p>You are sitting at Notre Dame having transferred again, starting multiple threads on the college confidential USC forum? Let it go already.</p>

<p>these are cool ideas bro. Email that max nikias dude and I’m sure he’ll implement them right away</p>