USC Vs NYU (Business)

<p>Hi there,</p>

<p>I am accepted by USC and NYU as a transfer to the Business School.</p>

<p>I am stuck about which one to go to.</p>

<p>Here's what I want to get from the college:</p>

<ul>
<li>strong business program</li>
<li>career prospect - e.g. how easy can a bachelors find a job after graduation, the salary etc</li>
<li>services - if the advisors and professsors are friendly and helpful, if they care about me</li>
<li>students - are they friendly to others, will they be too aggressive and step onto each other for better grades, social life, how easy to make friends (as an international student)</li>
</ul>

<p>also one of my concerns is that I haven't decided what to major in. I have always thought that I want to major in marketing, but my professor thought that i am better in Math than understanding concepts. And I looked at NYU's job placement survey, the mean salary of a BS in Finance is $10000 more than marketing. (yet people say I should major in what I like rather than how much I will earn) What should I major in? How do I know if I fit in majoring in finance?</p>

<p>Any comments is appreciated!
Thanks!</p>

<p>well regardless which school you choose (both of wich i'd say almost equivicably fit your criteria, although depending on where you're from your perception of friendleness may or may not jibe with the cities these schools are in), do NOT choose a major just because the mean reported statistically analyzed average salary report is 10k more, because if you indeed do NOT like it, you will be pretty miserable.</p>

<p>Hi Spincut,
Thanks</p>

<p>I am from Hong Kong, which is a very metropolitan city~</p>

<p>And I was reading people's comments about if they like NYU, they said NYU students need to be very very independent .... and there isn't a campus or community feeling at all ... so I don't know ~</p>

<p>It seems like i am leaning towards NYU but boy, it costs a lot, though USC is pretty similar but the apartment housing at NYU is like $12000/2 sem, that's killing!</p>

<p>And, I think you are right, I shouldn't major in something that I don't like, but I guess I have to decide soon about what I want to major in though ... (my professor suggested me to take the core business class and then I will probably know what I want to do)</p>

<p>Thanks again!</p>

<p>NYU Stern is the bigger name, but if you would rather do marketing than finance...I think they are equal.</p>

<p>If you choose to do finance, NYU has def. the stronger program (but there are other intangibles you need to figure out for yourself).</p>

<p>But, it sounds like you like marketing -- so do it. Something you need to remember about average salaries. So finance earns 10k a yr more on average. BUT, if you have an above avg interest in marketing & a below avg interest in finance...maybe you see what I mean.</p>

<p>Both are roughly equal.</p>

<p>thanks</p>

<p>I think if I really like marketing and don't like finance that much, I may end up having jobs with similar or different paycheck yet probably different levels of satisfaction.</p>

<p>I guess I like organizing and coordinating events and like to understand more about consumer behavior. Yet, I also want to understand more about investment and stocks and things like that.</p>

<p>I know that if I go to NYU, I may co-major in International Business, which I think NYU is top-notch. I am from Hong Kong, and China is a growing country. If I have some knowledge in IB, it will help me find a job if I work back home.</p>

<p>Stern is the bigger name overall and especially for finance, but USC can certainly compete in the international business arena, especially because it really focuses on the pacific rim.</p>

<p>and actually for international business i think USC's program is said to better, similarily how sterns finance program is said to be better.</p>

<p>so USC is better in international business than NYU?</p>

<p>I always thought that NYU has a better program, but do you guys know if USC allows students to complete more than one concentration?</p>

<p>I am still thinking about majors ... maybe I should major in marketing, co-major in international business or major in finance and co-major in marketing/international business ...</p>

<p>Will I spend more money at NYU (NYC) than USC (LA)? I looked at the apartment housing, it is like $12000, but USC's apartment is like $700/month and USC's apartment is on-campus, rather than the 35 min walk from 26th street or Layafette in NYC ... </p>

<p>I am not rich and I can't have any financial aid (international student) ... so cost is a factor in deciding where to go~</p>

<p>well both LA and New York are expensive cities, and the universities costs are comparatively priced, i'd say you're more likely to get aid or a scholarship from USC than NYU.</p>

<p>I'm pretty sure at least USC would allow you to have dual concentrations........i'm not so sure if it's a task you would realistically want to undertake but as far as them allowing it, i'm sure they would probably let you.</p>

<p>Yes, USC allows dual concentrations.</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>I asked NYU and they said I could double major or co-major in Stern.</p>

<p>i wanna know ... Both of them will be challenging ...</p>

<p>but which school's students are more friendly and helpful and supportive to others?</p>

<p>and i restate, it depends on who you are. Some people view new yorkers as very unfriendly and some do not. some more urbanite people say otherwise, or that it doesnt bother them because they have friends.</p>

<p>some think business students (at either program since they are both top 10) are cut throat and competitive in general.</p>

<p>it would be unwise to really make a generalization about the attitude of the students in either program. In either place you'll probably run into various types of people, both helpful as well as unhelpful.</p>

<p>and besides i'm not sure there's many people here that have attended both business programs to really make a fair a comparison, otherwise it's just peoples seperate views and experience, which can vary almost anywhere.</p>

<p>Thanks spincut.</p>

<p>i think you are right, no matter where I go, there will be people that are helpful / unhelpful...</p>

<p>I guess i should just choose the one I like the most, based on all the factors I need to consider; I will probably decide on the strength of the b program and my major and the career prospect of the degree.</p>

<p>Thanks again</p>

<p>you're welcome and good luck, and by the way i attend the USC business school :) .........i tried to be as unbiased as possible though. dont forget to tell us what you decide.</p>

<p>Wouldnt that be dope if someone went to one for undergrad and the other for grad school? Or UCLA and Columbia? Or UCLA and NYU? Or USC and Columbuia? LA and New York for educations!! Come to think of it, I think I'm gonna go to Columbia or NYU for another Masters or a PhD.</p>

<p>Shyboy, you stole my plan ;)</p>

<p>yeah that was something i always considered too, albeit my first choice would be to go a slightly less urban place, but if those schools wont accept me thats always a "dope" consideration to make.</p>

<p>shyboy13, that sounds a really cool plan!</p>

<p>one question ... would where you go in undergrad affect your chances to do grad school?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>I'm not sure about NYU (I'd have to think it would be the same), but at USC the alumni connection really contributes to your ability to get a job right out of college. USC has such a tight knit alumni community, and they really look after their own. I'd have to guess NYU is the same, but if you are worried about getting that job right out of college, I know for a fact, USC alums look out for their graduates.</p>

<p>I think it would come down to where the OP wanted to work. NYU, while not having as strong of a supportive alumni network at USC (few schools do... Notre Dame perhaps), will likely get her farther in NYC for obvious reasons, as well as in any position involving finance. Assuming if she wanted to work at home which was mentioned, it should be noted that Hong Kong has a very active and prominent USC alumni chapter there and flashing the class ring might get her foot in a few more doors than NYU would.</p>

<p>One sad reality is that the "it's not what you know, it's WHO you know" expression often holds true.</p>

<p>Maggie, to answer your question about undergrad institution affecting grad institution, the answer is "yes... to a degree." Assuming we're talking about business schools, since it's extremely rare to go straight from undergrad into an MBA program, it matters much less compared to most other graduate programs. In this instance, B-schools look at work experience, GMAT scores, and GPA among other variables, with the school taken into consideration. Clearly a 3.8 from Berkeley is more significant than a 3.8 from many other institutions. This is not to say though that one can't go to a non Tier 1 school and not make it into a top business school. I know of someone who apparently racked up such weighty work experience after graduating from SDSU that Wharton accepted him. As far as Marshall vs. Stern in the eyes of MBA Admissions is concerned, I would imagine they would be about equal, unless perhaps your Stern degree was in finance. But once again, they'll mostly be looking at other things.</p>