USNWR 2012 Best Colleges Rankings (Prediction)

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<p>Top 10 only, lol.</p>

<p>I disagree because Ivy league caliber schools such as Brown and Cornell are typically characterized by their top 15 scores.</p>

<p>Plus, in 2007, the year I applied to colleges, UChicago jumped from #15 to #9 (+6 spots) in just one year. So I would say, top 15 schools are all contenders for the top 10. You never know, Cornell could jump into the top 10, just like UChicago did in 2007.</p>

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<p>Phantasm, all four of your paragraphs are garbage. You write with such authority, which I guess is good, but you don’t make any sense. You need to reread the articles’ points about how the $200M fund is set up.</p>

<p>Just one question: Under what ranking is Cal a top-five U? </p>

<p>Here’s a little more in depth explanation from the [Daily Bruin](<a href=“http://www.dailybruin.com/index.php/article/2011/02/_a_billionaire_investor_makesa_ninefigure_gift_to_ucla_creating_the_dream_fund_to_support_core_goals”>http://www.dailybruin.com/index.php/article/2011/02/_a_billionaire_investor_makesa_ninefigure_gift_to_ucla_creating_the_dream_fund_to_support_core_goals&lt;/a&gt;) of the Dream Fund.</p>

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<p>Here’s how $20M of the funds have been used:</p>

<p>[$20M Fund](<a href=“http://www.dailybruin.com/index.php/article/2011/05/new_fund_for_ucla_achievement_scholarships_will_aid_incoming_firstyears_and_transfers”>http://www.dailybruin.com/index.php/article/2011/05/new_fund_for_ucla_achievement_scholarships_will_aid_incoming_firstyears_and_transfers&lt;/a&gt;) for those entering, 2011. Now, hopefully this is just the ROI of the total $200M. Hopefully the funds will expand.</p>

<p>Btw, Chancellor Block is a Stanford alum. Xfered from Cal to Stanford … I don’t know where he obtained his PHD. Older, seems too old to lead, seemingly not real charismatic. Hopefully, I’ll be wrong and he’ll be a great fund-raiser, great leader.</p>

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<p>I can’t bring myself to care as much as you to rationalize just how much of the donated money is going to medical research or not. And again, this line of argument is pointless anyway since it has no bearing on the greater point (even if all $300m were for the university): it will not put UCLA in a better place than Berkeley during these budget cuts.</p>

<p>Berkeley comes out in the top 5 most prestigious schools in the world according to a worldwide survey done by THE:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2010-2011/reputation-rankings.html[/url]”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2010-2011/reputation-rankings.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>And of course in others Berkeley comes out top 5 in world rankings (e.g. ARWU).</p>

<p>I write with authority in the face of BS. If all four paragraphs of mine are “garbage,” why didn’t you rebut any of it? Most of it seems pretty logical and objective - e.g. that Berkeley’s faculty far outstrips UCLA’s, that faculty are the core of the university, that expanding faculty with the best professors is extremely expensive, etc.</p>

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<p>How are you supposed to predict these statistics?.. This thread is silly but very entertaining.</p>

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<p>can anyone tell me when the new rankings come out? thanks!</p>

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<p>1 Harvard, Princeton
3 Yale, Stanford
5 MIT, Columbia
7 Caltech
8 Dartmouth/Duke/Penn
11 Chicago </p>

<p>I think this would be ideal.</p>

<p>Also I am curious to know when the rankings will be released.</p>

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<p>my updated prediction:</p>

<p>1) Harvard
2) Yale, Princeton
4) Columbia
5) Stanford, Penn
7) MIT, Chicago
9) Duke, Caltech
11) Dartmouth, Northwestern
13) JHU
14) Brown
15) Wash U
16) Cornell
17) Vanderbilt
18) Rice
19) Notre Dame
20) Emory
21) Georgetown</p>

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<p>From an email I received from US News:</p>

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<p>^^ Thanks for the update!~ :)</p>

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<p>How did Wake Forest suddenly get into the coveted ‘top 25’ club? It’s not a UVA or a Georgetown.</p>

<p>I don’t mean this in an insulting way or anything like that, but I’m genuinely curious.</p>

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<p>It’s because people have bad memories and just go off last year for the top 25 and rearrange accordingly. Silly, yet very true.</p>

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This is strange 'cause my current subscription expires on August 1. Did anyone else receive the same email from US News?</p>

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<p>You actually bought a subscription? </p>

<p>ROFL.</p>

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<p>^ US News is actually useful for more than just the rankings. It’s a pretty good subscription to have.</p>

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How else will I be able to debate with you guys on CC?</p>

<p>I bought it for the convenience of mining the data … certainly not for the rankings.</p>

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I received that email in response to an inquiry I submitted to US News. In past years, there usually had been a countdown to the new rankings on the site by this time (mid-July), and this year, there’s no mention of them. So I sent US News an email inquiry, and that was the response I received from the “U.S. News Webmaster.”</p>

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<p>why do I always see a flame war between UCLA, USC, and UCB advocates/students everytime I go on a rankings forum??? Who cares? these 3 schools are not even that good and they are always gonna be in that 20-25 range. geesh take a chill pill everyone. </p>

<p>Having said that, why do so many people bump Brown up to #11/12 when it was #15 in 2011? Brown is the worst Ivy and it has huge grade inflation.</p>

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<p>“…Brown is the worst Ivy…”</p>

<p>That’s a contradiction in terms. All Ivy League members are excellent. There is no worst…or best. HYP are the most famous, the remaining 5 are all amazing just the same.</p>

<p>“…these 3 schools are not even that good and they are always gonna be in that 20-25 range. geesh take a chill pill everyone.”</p>

<p>Cal is an excellent university, easily counted among the very best. UCLA and USC are also very good. Those are all among the top 1% institutions of higher learning in the US. I am not sure how you can justify saying that “they are not that good”. Regardless of the source, a top 25 ranking is very impressive. Besides, just because the USNWR ranks them between #20 and #25 does not make it so. The USNWR is very flawed. Cal easily belongs among the top 10.</p>

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For undergrad?</p>

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<p>Whichever rankings website puts Berkeley in the top 10 is clearly more flawed than USNWR. USNWR is flawed but it is the least flawed in all of the college rankings. That’s why everyone looks at it and uses it to judge. Alexandre, just because a school is in the “Ivy League” doesn’t mean it’s suddenly on a pedestal. Do you even know what the Ivy League is? It’s a NCAA sports conference that’s been around for quite a while. There are a handful of schools that are not in the Ivy League and are ranked higher than Cornell and Brown. </p>

<p>UCLA, USC and UCB are a joke in terms of getting in. It’s just slightly harder than your average state school but not as competitive as the top 15 National U/Liberal Arts.</p>