USNWR Best colleges 2012?

College Search & Selection
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<p>So whats everyone's opinions on the USNWR 2012 list coming August. Who will crack/remain/drop out of top 50/top 5/top 10.</p>

<p>I especially want to know if Columbia will remain top 5, drop out or crack top 3 (very possible)</p>

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<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Stanford, Penn</li>
<li>UChicago, MIT, Caltech</li>
<li>Duke, Dartmouth</li>
<li>Northwestern, WashU</li>
<li>Brown, Cornell</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Notre Dame, Emory</li>
<li>USC, just for kicks</li>
</ol>

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<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Princeton, Yale</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Penn, MIT</li>
<li>Caltech
9 Uchicago, Dartmouth</li>
<li>Duke, Northwestern</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>Brown, Wash U</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
</ol>

<p>no real methodology, just a guess, no big changes</p>

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<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>UChicago</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Hopkins</li>
</ol>

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<p>I think that emory will move up, columbia will move down</p>

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<p>I believe that USC will be tied with UC Berkeley at 22. But I predict in 5 years by increasing their endowment, lowering their admit rate to below 20%, and continuing to hire award winning faculty that they will be in the Top 15 with Cornell.</p>

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<p>y’all do realize that the “list” is already out. It was released online last week. (I’ve been “shocked, shocked” that those on cc have missed it so far.)</p>

<p>Off the top of my head:</p>

<p>Yes, 'SC moved up, but only one spot to go ahead of UCLA. UVa and UMich are dropping. Cal is still #1 public.</p>

<p>Columbia up to #4, Stanford down, Dartmouth = #9.</p>

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<p>bluebayou, can you provide a link? When I go to the USNWR site all I see is 2011.</p>

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<p>It was released last Monday, at least that is when I happened to check. </p>

<p><a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities[/url]”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>DougBetsy, he is obviously joking. We have a little over a month till the list is released.</p>

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<p>Berkeley i really suffering from financial difficulties right now, which, according to the huffingron post, is the reason why theyre admitting more out of state students. So give it another 6-8 years.</p>

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<p>^ The financial difficulty Berkeley (and other UCs) are going through is not exactly a loss in revenue. Revenues have increased every year. It is the sourcing of these revenues that is changing. State support used to be the biggest contributor of funding, followed by federal, philanthropy and student tuition. Now, federal research support makes up the biggest contribution, followed by student tuition, philanthropy and state support. </p>

<p>Berkeley is becoming a more privatized/quasi public institution a la UVA and UMich. Berkeley has the resources to come out of this funding source upheaval rather well…as witnessed by its large increase in out-of-state student enrollment.</p>

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<p>The new rankings are not coming out in August, but September this year according to an article I read recently. Apparently, the Carnegie Classifications are going to play some part in the rankings. There are sixteen factors considered.</p>

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<p>My thoughts on the new rankings. I think Columbia will fall; MIT is ranked too low; NW, Penn too high; Chicago, WUSTL, and (especially) Brown will finally creep up a bit due to declining admission rates. I see about 4 clear tiers: HYPM…Columbia to WUSTL…then Brown to Carnegie Mellon are just a toss up…then u have the (no offense) stragglers. </p>

<p>Bias - Columbia. Hatred - Penn Sucks. Respect - Stanford. OH NO W T F - NW/Brown.</p>

<p>Thoughts?</p>

<p>1 Harvard
2 Princeton
Yale
4 MIT
5 Columbia
Stanford
7 Caltech
8 Chiacgo
9 Duke
Penn
11 Dartmouth
WUSTL
13 Brown
14 Northwestern
15 Cornell
16 Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
18 Johns Hopkins
19 Rice
20 Georgetown
21 Emory
22 Carnegie Mellon
23 Berkeley
24 Virginia
25 USC</p>

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<p>"I especially want to know if Columbia will remain top 5, drop out or crack top 3 (very possible) "</p>

<p>Top 5, Top 3 or Top 10, Columbia is a great school and a drop in the rankings does not necessarily mean that it is losing its prestige and a rise in the rankings does not necessarily mean that it is getting better.</p>

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<p>Here would be my list not USNews necessarily.
1,Harvard
2.Stanford
3.Yale, Princeton
5.MIT
6.Caltech
7.Penn
8.Chicago
9. Duke
10. Dartmouth, Columbia</p>

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<p>Columbia tops duke in any case</p>

<p>Sent from my DROIDX using CC App</p>

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<p>Everyone seems to be predicting changes based on acceptance rates (i.e, everyone sees Brown jumping above JHU/Cornell), but acceptance rate is a tiny percentage of the US News rankings. Tiny changes in peer assessment scores and changes in methodology will have a much larger impact.</p>