USNWR'12 USC keeps its #23 spot!

<p>I was initially disappointed by the rankings because everyone expected USC to jump up a notch or two.. but I guess we deserve the rank we are in right now and hopefully will rise next year! :)</p>

<p>Also, the Marshall school of business is now 9th in the country, tied with Carnegie Mellon and Cornell. Plus, the Leventhal School of Accounting is now ranked 4th!</p>

<p>Bummer! I was hoping we hit #20.</p>

<p>But the more important news – did UCLA fall? :wink: </p>

<p>(Kidding!)</p>

<p>haha UCLA remained in its #25 spot. I guess they deserve it cuz although its going through a tough time, it’s still a great school. At least we’re still ahead of them ;)</p>

<p>At first I saw the list and I thought I had accidentally clicked last year’s. I had to double check this was indeed this year’s rankings. It’s basically the exact same thing. Not trying to say colleges should go back and forth huge numbers between one year or another, but I would never pay to buy the issue at all from USN. I’d feel cheated and feel like I bought the same thing last year. </p>

<p>Still good to see another ranking for 2012 come out. However, I too thought USC should have at least moved 1 rank up. That was a surprise. This whole list is basically 100 schools tied for 1 spot then another school ranked 10 places further down. It’d be much more meaningful if they actually started using a less flawed system where they could rank more accurately.</p>

<p>I didn’t see a big difference in the rankings except for the top 10 spot: Caltech, MIT, and UChicago all got bumped up to #5, and now join Stanford and Upenn. The biggest bump was for Uchicago, which i think was at #9 the year before (Caltech and MIT were at 7). These schools are more and more solidifying themselves as New Ivies. Of all of the universities which were increased, i liked caltech the most. Caltech is often considered a worse school than MIT, even though the two completely focus on different aspects of science, the former is seen as much more prestigious. Many people in their predications were listing MIT as #7 and Caltech as #10. I’m glad to see they’re considered equals, especially since Caltech is such a research powerhouse.</p>

<p>Also, princeton ties with hardvard, very interesting. Lastly, it’s not that surprising that USC didn’t jump up in ranking. Although USC no doubt improved this past year, so have the other schools. While i certainly don’t think USC is at the level of JHU, Uchicago, or northwestern, i am skeptical that emory and vanderbilt are ahead of it.</p>

<p>UCLA students must think alike because I completely agree about Caltech. In fact, the more educated and knowledgeable people seem to be about institutions the more I have heard that same person giving the nod to caltech over MIT than “traditionalists” who just go by word of mouth and never really inform themselves. I also think Emory should not be at 20. I’ll just leave it at that without causing too much raucous.</p>

<p>Not sure if it’s still the case, but MIT, by itself, is second among universities in terms of patents obtained. It’s second only to the UC system. (Patents are issued to the UC Regents, not to individual UC campuses.)</p>

<p>@jjalfonso1:</p>

<p>lol, i heard someone make that exact statements with Caltech. (although upon researching it i can see that you are correct.) It should be noted though that Caltech only has like 1/4th the students that MIT has. The schools, in reality, are barely even comparable: MIT is a practical science institution; Caltech is a pure science institution. No doubt that both want to be great scientists, but those who go to Caltech want to push their field.</p>

<p>Oops. I did in fact mean Caltech. They like to mention that fact every now and then during their Entretech forums.</p>

<p>Can you send me a link to the research you did? I think the folks in Pasadena would be interested in seeing that.</p>

<p>I said you were right actually. Also, on further in the link i originally found, on further inspection, was from 2002. I don’t actually know if there is a cumulative list for how many patents given universities have in total. It’s difficult to even find how many patents the UofC schools have individually.</p>

<p>I don’t think Vandy and Emory will outperform us on the rankings for long. I have confidence in Max.</p>

<p>And WashU fell to 14 LOL</p>

<p>I believe in Max as well. Fight on!</p>

<p>Surprised to find that Emory has even fewer
Nobels than SC, only 2 and also both were there in staff only
“after” the prize. ND also only 2. Duke has 5.<br>
Vandy has 7. WSL 22. CMU 18.

[List</a> of Nobel laureates by university affiliation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_university_affiliation]List”>List of Nobel laureates by university affiliation - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>Not that Nobels have really much to do with undergrad rank,
but as Emory’s long been academically
lauded as “New Ivies” or even “Harvard of the South(?)”,
not any basis SC’s not better than “Coca-Cola University” either.</p>