@WWWard UT’s policy of not wanting mid-year reports is not unusual. Many, and probably most, schools do not request it.
Is UT Austin worth paying OOS for Biology in CNS? I’m debating between that and in-state options
@renwa – do your parents have the $45-50,000 per year to pay the OOS cost of attendance at UT?
@carachel2 They’ve said that they’ll pay half of the tuition if i go OOS and full if I stay in state.
@renwa --how are you expecting to come up with the other half of tuition?
Assuming you don’t get a merit scholarship (and most do not AT UT) and realizing you can only borrow $5,500 your first year and just a bit more than that the next few years----where does the extra $17,000 per year come from?
@carachel2 I was going to take loans. To be honest, if it’s worth going to, my parents will pay. Money is not an issue if it’s a good school because the tuition for my high school is the same as UT Austin’s tuition. However, if there is not a huge advantage, I would rather go to my in state college to save some money for grad school.
@itsgettingreal17 Thanks… but I was basing it on our personal experience. Three years ago, when my older daughter was applying to colleges, 17 out of 17 required it. This year, 14 out of 15 require it. UT is the only college or university to not only not require it… but also to refuse to accept it and review it.
I was admitted to International Relations in the December wave. Recently I found out that the Sustainability Studies major had been approved so i put in an appeal to change my major last week and it was approved this morning!
@WWWard many colleges have already given decisions TCU, Baylor, A and M , SMU, Tulane, have all given EA decisions- i think also UGA and Clemson. some of them will ask deferred candidates for first semester grades but none require mid- year transcripts. Common App schools mostly require mid- year transcripts because they give decisions other than ED in April. UT is very clear that your judged solely on 9-11 grade when you visit them and when they visit schools to speak to kids. They receive 50-60 thousand applicants and start their process of review upon receipt. Once you submit you will be reviewed- they cannot even promise that a new ACT or SAT score can be looked at once they have started review. ( i know this from experience) Also- if you look at the formulas used to be accepted into UT’s various colleges- class rank is actually the only thing they use from your transcript for the formula. GPA is not used . PAI score also ( the other part of the formula they use) also likely has already considered difficulty of a student’s senior year schedule. Really there is no reason to see a senior year transcript - it would just move decisions later .
@tb2000 I’m actually a little confused about this class rank thing because I switched schools after sophomore year and my new school has around 45 people so we don’t rank. I’m not sure how they looked at my application.
@tb2000 Thanks.
Well I guess that every college is entitled to their own methodology. In my daughter’s case, while she has two admissions in-hand already, she is still being asked by those colleges to send in her mid-year grades. USC, for example, receives over 55K applications, but they still insist that you log-on and input your mid-year grades and also have an updated official transcript sent in via the counselor’s submission to the Common Application or directly by a counselor. They, like many colleges, want to see if you are performing well with a rigorous senior year course load.
I guess that it is is more common than I thought. UT is the only school of the ones you mentioned though that my daughter applied to.
In reality, I am a little surprised that she has not heard a decision yet. I understand that it may be more challenging for an OOS applicant, but her rank, GPA, test stats, ECs and essays were such that I thought she would be accepted. She of course may still be, but this thread has posted many OOS acceptances already, so we are starting to wonder. She is an R-T-F applicant, so maybe that admissions process is different… time will tell.
@renwa – you can’t take out loans more than $5,500 per year. Anything else would have to be a Parent loan and under their name.
What are your other in-state choices?
@carachel2 yeah so if they have to pay or something then they’ll pay for it. If it’s a good school, they’ll pay for it. I got into Michigan State with a $10000 scholarship and Wayne State with a full ride
@WWWard I am sure it was mentioned earlier but UT only accepts 10% of its applicants from out of state and international AND many of the automatic admits have not heard about their majors yet. My older daughter was top 4% in state last year with great test scores and did not find out her major until the end of February. Those students who find out earlier are really the exception.
@renwa my kids’ schools do not rank either. I don’t know what they do for that in the formula for schools that do not rank . I figured out my kid’s basic rank myself and did the formula - oddly his first semester GPA was pretty close to what that formula predicted. Our school sent a profile that sort of shows where your GPA falls in rank( which is why i am not sure why they are all so secretive about rank).
@WWWard The Moody college of Communications does not publish a formula nor does it publish stats of accepted students.- I called and asked because my daughter was considering applying to that college for Audiology. Supposedly their review is done by admissions office and is 100 percent holistic. I am sure you know that only 10 percent of acceptances are for OOS and OOC combined.- so it’s just tight overall for OOS applicants. best of luck to her.
Also- UT acceptance won’t say that it is conditional on your grades being acceptable ( as many other colleges do). From what I understand ( and I asked because my son had a very lazy senior year) graduating from high school is the last requirement for admission after you are accepted. Scholarships likely come with some conditions like that but acceptance to UT itself does not.
@carachel2 UT is ranked 30 nationally for Biology, Michigan state is 50. if you are in state in Michigan though you will likely pay around 15k a year total for tuition, room and board with your scholarship ( i assume the 10k is per year and cost instate there totals around 25k?) you wont likely get any scholarship from UT and the total for out of state is over 50k for everything. you have to decide if paying three times as much is something you are okay with doing based on the rank and other factors for the schools. Wayne doesnt seem to be stand up to either of these schools.
if you are planning on grad school do you want to incur any debt during undergrad?
Thanks, @cheetahgirl121 and @tb2000
Well, an OOS/OOC acceptance rate of only 10% is certainly low & highly competitive, but we were still hopeful because her stats seemed favorable to some of the prior OOS admits’ stats posted herein + her creative portfolio, ECs, short films, essays, writing samples, etc all seemed to be strengths for a creative-based major. Of course, I also do not even recall the UT application requiring the supplement submissions common at most highly ranked film programs. I believe that UT is ranked 11th by the Hollywood Reporter as a film school, so that is certainly impressive and likely makes that R-T-F program even harder to gain admission into.
@tb2000 Can you share that formula for schools that don’t rank?
@WWWard Really? no portfolio or extended resume for RTF? UT’s RTF is consistently top 10 in most college review s. I haven’t ever looked at Holly wood reporter but can see why someone would for that major. I think Matthew M is also drawing a lot of attention to the program this year given that he is teaching a class and is spending a lot of time on campus- so i would expect that applications numbers went up this year .