UT Austin -- Is It Really That Hard

<p>lol typo but i meant College is probably only as hard as you allow it to be, study more pass more</p>

<p>and vail? when you study you pass right? or does studying not help at all?</p>

<p>really?</p>

<p>How do you get “studying does not help at all” from what I posted? Also, I don’t think a person can assume “when you study, you pass”. </p>

<p>I didn’t say studying doesn’t help. It would be foolish not to study. But it is a major oversimplification to extrapolate that if you study something you will pass it. One should try ones best, but that is not always enough. This generalization has perhaps been true for you so far, but is not necessarily true for every student and not necessarily true even for the most gifted of students given certain subject matter.</p>

<p>Have you not known people in high school who work as hard as they can and still only get Cs and Ds? People who sit in an algebra class and simply cannot grasp the concepts? Kids and adults who struggle to read, even with tutors? Not everyone is blessed with innate ability.</p>

<p>@vail</p>

<p>but people like that usually show problems at a young age</p>

<p>you cant even pass with a D in Texas, just putting that out their</p>

<p>how can u go to a regular college(4year university) without knowing how to read or some algebra? </p>

<p>i dont think the “students” your referring to are traditional college students</p>

<p>@pierrechn:</p>

<p>Again, you oversimplify. I was mentioning struggling HS students because I knew you had been exposed to them. I was trying to illustrate a concept. Even bright college students will struggle sometimes. Some of the most gifted physicians/mathematicians/engineers/you-name-it I know have struggled with some subject in college or even graduate education. And I know brilliant professionals who cannot reliably balance a checkbook. </p>

<p>And you are wrong that “people like that usually show problems at a young age”. There are incredibly bright, gifted people who have learning disabilities which are sometimes not diagnosed until many years into their education. And there are perfectly normal people who are excellent at some things and abysmal at others.</p>

<p>well put it like this, most college students did decent in HS so they can probably succeed in college</p>

<p>and as far as “people like that usually show problems at a young age” i meant it in this way, most people that cant read well, probably couldnt read well when they were younger and as far as math most people are good at it until around 9th grade</p>

<p>Pierre, you are not in college how would you know that just studying gets you by?</p>

<p>To a certain extent this is true, most students are capable of passing most classes as long as they work at it. But, not everyone has the same capabilities. Some people just can’t grasp concepts. Everyone is good at different things, some are great when it comes to logic or math, some are great writers, and some can tell you all about the periodic table. Everyone has different strong suits and weaknesses, and for some, studying isn’t enough to pass a class. Are you trying to tell me that my friend who struggled to a C in college algebra could pass Calculus just by studying? I doubt it. There is nothing wrong with that, she just isn’t a math orientated person.</p>

<p>You just can’t make blanket comments like that. Especially when you have not taken a college course.</p>

<p>my point exactly, math has never been her thing/ so she will get the same grades in math that she got in HS which were probably Cs</p>

<p>and im assuming college is only as hard as you make it, that applies to HS 2</p>

<p>I am just trying to say, saying college is only as hard as you make it is oversimplifying things a bit. For the most part this is true, but there are situations where it doesn’t matter how hard you work, you will never master it.</p>

<p>well technically you dont have to master something to pass (if a D or C is all you can get then its good enough)</p>

<p>STEM classes, hard. </p>

<p>Liberal Arts/Business/Comm/Soft classes, for the most part, not so hard. </p>

<p>Believe it or not, some people aren’t good at anything. I know it’s a tough pill to swallow, but it’s true. And some people are good at almost everything.</p>

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<p>Pierre, yet another grammar lesson: It’s “there,” not “their.” You really have a hard time with those two words. The moderator asked that I correct misinformation, so that’s what I’ll do.</p>

<p>Without picking sides here, I think a big part of the perceived difficulty at UT, especially in lower-division classes, is bad time management and poor study skills. In my experience a large percentage of students don’t put a daily effort into their coursework. Instead they cram for each one in turn as the exams arise. This pattern repeats itself throughout the semester, so they end up with a passing grade, but because everything goes into short-term memory and is quickly forgotten, they never gain the prerequisite knowledge they are expected to carry into the next course, which means the next course requires even more cramming to get by. The students who developed good study skills in high school have a much easier time of it at UT, especially in the sciences.</p>

<p>That is actually a great point to make and it goes for any college. I can’t telly you how many times I have gone to study with friends and they don’t know the most basic things the day before the test. I just wonder what they were doing the last month. I make a habit of reviewing notes at least one to two times a week. When the test arrives, I have less to learn, and it is really just a review.</p>

<p>yea my hs teacher told me if i go over my notes daily for an hour or so, i want have to worry about pulling all nighters and having cram sessions</p>

<p>College isn’t meant to be a cake walk. If you want something bad enough, you will put in the effort to get it. That’s all you can do. Nothing in life comes without a little bit of hard work and sacrifice. So look at the the rigor of UT education as a challenge, not an obstacle.</p>