UT plan II or regular?

<p>I am taking a lot of AP classes in hopes of receiving AP credit at the college of my choice.
I know that UT allows students to avoid taking certain intro classes if they get good grades on the AP exams. (AP</a> Cut Scores)</p>

<p>I have been looking into the Plan II program at UT and it really appeals to me. However, according to their website, (Plan</a> II Honors Program) college credit will not be received for AP classes, which comes as a shock to me and basically renders my AP scores useless. </p>

<p>Though I really want to receive college credit for the hours I've spent studying for AP classes/exams in the past and present year, I also want I go to the best college I can and enter the best programs possible for me.</p>

<p>I'm stuck. Help?</p>

<p>If you took AP Gov and pass the Texas gov test, I am pretty sure you still get credit for Gov 310 because there is not a special "Plan II version" of Gov 310 and Gov 310 is required for graduation from UT. I am pretty sure some AP credits are useful for a Plan II student.</p>

<p>Listen, I am a current Plan II student and the program is worth it. Believe me, if you are accepted and enroll you won't regret it.</p>

<p>yeah plan II gets enjoy a cup of afternoon coffee at their prof's houses every now and then</p>

<p>...or so I hear</p>

<p>What else can you tell me about Plan II, schism? Do most of the kids live in the honors dorms? I have heard the honors dorms are quite a distance from most classes, is this a problem? How much partying goes on in the honors dorms vs. Jester or Dobie?<br>
Do the Plan II kids hang out together?<br>
Thanks for any insight you can give me.</p>

<p>I'm not in Plan II (I was in engineering honors), and I went to UT last year.</p>

<p>I think the honors dorms are relatively centrally located. It's not really that far away from any of the buildings. There will be more partying on West Campus or Jester or Dobie, but I'm sure there are still going to be parties in the honors dorms. </p>

<p>I don't know much about the actual culture of Plan II (other than what I've heard from people in it), but if you have any other questions about UT, just PM me.</p>

<p>Really?
It would just REALLY suck to have like nine AP credits go to waste...</p>

<p>There are certain classes like the government requirement that you may be able to use AP credit on if you're in PlanII, but not many so don't count on it. However, if you're planning on double-majoring, which a lot of PlanII students do, then you can use your AP credits on requisites for that second major. </p>

<p>More importantly, for most of the classes they don't accept credit for they offer a planII version of the class. These classes are taught by some of the best and brightest professors at UT. To skip them would basically be skipping PlanII altogether.</p>

<p>To answer cpq1xtbu questions,
The honors dorms are pretty centrally located, my freshman year they were a lot closer to my classes than any other dorm would have been. Many of the people in those dorms do tend to hang out together, but remember that they are not just restricted to planII students. There are also plenty of people who don't stay in the dorms, one of which was me. The "partying" is pretty mild, you do have RA's walking around and living on the floor. Plus, the quad is pretty much right next to West Campus anyway, where parties are ALOT bigger.</p>

<p>I'm wondering if you misread the Plan II website, 12841284: </p>

<p>"Plan II applicants should also remember that although they are not required,
high test scores on AP exams (5's) or SAT II tests (750+) will certainly enhance
an application to Plan II Honors. <em>Almost all SAT II and AP tests can earn credit
hours</em>. These credits often fulfill general education or college requirements
and count toward the minimum number of hours required to graduate from the
University. In only a very few cases, however, are credits received through
tests accepted in lieu of specific Plan II core requirements."</p>

<p>Unless I am missing something, it looks to me like you can get credit for AP and SAT II scores (assuming they are high enough), with the possible exception of "core classes."</p>

<p>Am I missing something here?</p>

<p>You'll get "elective" credits for scores on AP tests but the AP classes won't help you get out of any core requirements. </p>

<p>Examples comparing a major in Plan II with a major in something else under Plan I honors in the College of Liberal Arts - </p>

<p>If you are a Plan I honors student with good scores for AP micro economics and AP psych, you will get six Social Science credits and you will have met your UT Social Science requirements.
If you are a Plan II honors student with good scores for AP micro economics and AP psych, you get six extra elective credits and but you need to take the Plan II Social Science class SS 301.</p>

<p>If you are a Plan I honors with a good AP score for AP English Lit and a high score on some measure of comp (AP test or English section of ACT or SAT), you get six credits and don't need to take English 306 or 316 (or any other English at UT).
If you are a Plan II honors student with a good AP score for AP English Lit and a high score on some measure of comp (AP test or English section of ACT or SAT), you get six extra elective credits and but you still need to take Plan II English 603A and 603B.</p>

<p>If you are a Plan I honors student with a 5 for AP biology, you get 6 Natural Science credits and you have made a good dent in the UT Science core requirements.
If you are a Plan II honors student with a 5 for AP biology, you get 6 elective credits but you still have to take a Plan II bio class.</p>

<p>My D had a fair amount of AP credit, and I recall that for example, her credits for English comp, physics, BC calc, and micro econ made a nice dent in UT core requirements. I recall that her AP credit for world history and for macro econ only counted for elective credits. Having to take fewer core classes makes it easy for her to either plan to spend a year abroad before graduation or to graduate a year early and then go abroad. For her major, this is an advantage. </p>

<p>If you want to major in Plan II, you probably won't particularly care about making a dent in the UT core credits. And your AP credits, as elective credits, will let you say "now I am a sophomore" or "now I am a junior" earlier than others you know. (I don't know if they will allow you to graduate earlier.)</p>

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It would just REALLY suck to have like nine AP credits go to waste...

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<p>Also, retaking a class isn't a big deal. Like, if you did well on AP Phys C, taking Plan II physics should be a cakewalk, and you can either schedule more classes in (if you really care about finishing quickly), or take more time to enjoy your collegiate experience.</p>

<p>Myrmidon73, did you say taking Plan II Physics would be a cakewalk if you did well in AP Physics C? I hope you are joking because Plan II physics which is a Junior signature course is the MOST infamous/notorious class in the entire program. It isn't a cakewalk for anyone.</p>

<p>Plan II physics - It absolutely depends on which professor is teaching it, and I hear Gleeson isn't teaching it next semester. I took it with Schwitters, had a great time, and didn't think it was that hard at all, but I also love physics.</p>

<p>is Plan II physics mandatory or can you take something else?</p>

<p>You can take a year's worth of Biochem instead.
That's what I'll be doing.</p>

<p>is there something more......tolerable?</p>

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is there something more......tolerable?

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<p>Plan II physics was pretty easy (at least this is what I have heard from my Plan II friends). I'm sure you'll do fine in it.</p>

<p>If only I could have Plan II and avoid taking Physics and other sciences/maths... I guess my way of learning just isn't that "interdisciplinary."</p>

<p>I'm a current Plan II student, and the program is very nitpicky about AP credits. Whereas many of my friends can claim 15, 20, 30 credits, I cannot claim so much, but trust me, a lot of the required classes are worthwhile.</p>

<p>I agree with lissezmoi, I'm not good at physics or sciences in the least. I don't know if it's right for me.</p>