UVA Mcintire vs. Cornell AEM (Dyson)?

<p>I was wondering with school has a bigger wall street pull and is overall more prestigious in specifically the NYC/northeast area. </p>

<p>According to rankings:</p>

<p>Businessweek
UVA = #2
Cornell = #3</p>

<p>USNWR
UVA = #5
Cornell = #10</p>

<p>Also, according to the objective data on their websites, it seems that the average starting salary for Cornell is around $59,000 whereas for UVA it is closer to $61,000. </p>

<p>Does this mean that UVA is a more prestigious/better business school? I feel like Cornell is always better thought of just because of it is in the Ivy League.</p>

<p>That’s so true. Cornell isn’t nearly as good as the other ivies like Dartmouth etc so when it comes to Cornell, being an ivy league school truly is only a name. Cornell is definitely “better” than UVA in many areas of study, but UVa’s business school is definitely better than Cornell’s.</p>

<p>Both are excellent, top tier business schools. You can get a great job in even the most prestigious fields from either b-school. </p>

<p>Cornell’s business school is a four year program (guaranteed).
McIntire is a two year program - you have to apply as a sophomore. </p>

<p>Virginia does have some risk involved, obviously, as the average GPA accepted to McIntire is about a 3.6. </p>

<p>On the other hand, Virginia will have a more active social scene and better sports. Cornell may also be more expensive depending on scholarships/aid. </p>

<p>I would personally give Cornell the edge, due to the prestige and guaranteed admission to the b-school. It depends on fit, though.</p>

<p>Cornell you know you are in the program and UVA you have to wait. So, ask yourself if you went to UVA and didn’t get into the mcIntire School, then what? I know of a local VA student that didnt want to take that chance so is paying OOS at Cornell. Already offered a job wall street.</p>

<p>For the purpose of this discussion let’s assume you get into UVA’s b-school. I would like to compare the schools and not consider the risk of not getting into Mcintire. </p>

<p>@Pat, what evidence do you have besides the general sense of prestige that you have? I understand that on a general basis, Cornell is higher ranked than UVA, but when comparing business schools, that is not the case.</p>

<p>Mcintire is a brand by itself. To the recruiters, it is always Mcintire/Wharton/Ross and not UVA/Upenn/Michigan. Therefore, brand perception of the parent university does not enhance or adversely impact the recruitment prospect.</p>

<p>AEM would be a better choice because of the security. You can experience more diversity and a better social scene at Cornell. Cornell is an ivy league and so there will be a greater amount of name recognition of cornell as well as a more active alumni network.</p>

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McIntire students are some of the most sought after b-school grads in the nation, and UVA has a very strong reputation (ranked second best public in the nation). </p>

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Hmm…how incredibly silly of me! All this time I was under the delusion that hanging around people who had great personalities made the social experience fun. According to you, I need to select my social circle based upon race, gender, etc. to be fulfilled. Uh, no thanks. I’ll continue to look beyond a person’s exterior and choose to associate with those who are kind, funny, and interesting.
BTW, Cornell is located in Ithaca which is in an isolated part of upstate New York. It is frigid for a large portion of the year. It is remote and removed from urban centers unlike UVA which is close to D.C., Richmond, and the beach. Both schools have great natural surroundings for the outdoor enthusiast, and both schools have very active Greek communities.</p>

<p>When I said security, I meant that the OP would be guaranteed a spot in AEM rather than being at the mercy of the staff in charge of picking students for the business school. Social scene is not correlated with proximity to major cities or beaches. When I visited both Cornell and UVA, I received a more friendly vibe from Cornell while UVA felt high strung and uptight. Cornell has an advantage for its Ivy League name, which many bb firms and consulting firms treasure. I am disagreeing with you about UVA reputation but I do feel that AEM is a better choice for the OP.</p>

<p>Both are great options. Each school lists those companies that recruit on a regular basis. It might be a good idea to research this since it is the main point of your post. You should be able to find this information quite easily. </p>

<p>Companies in the northeast know each school quite well and whether or not their students are what they are looking for. Believe it or not just because a school is an ivy does not always make the applicant a better choice for many companies. Also. one company may prefer a McIntire student for one department, but a Cornell grad for another. </p>

<p>One misnomer out there is that consulting firms recruit from business schools only. They do hire those students, but they also interview and hire students with a liberal arts major/background too. </p>

<p>Same holds true for IB’s and other financial institutions, however for these positions they are primarily economics majors. </p>

<p>So basically what I am saying is you cannot go wrong with what decision you make based on your posed question. You will land a good paying job, if you work hard, do internships, gain experience on campus in activities and leadership roles, etc. Each are great places to get an education and it truly comes down to fit. Be sure to visit each campus and business school. Speak with students and ask several different students about those types of activities that interest you personally. The weather truly is a factor here too. I am by no means saying one is better than the other just very different. Believe me I know having lived in each of these areas. </p>

<p>Best of luck to you!</p>

<p>Excellent point, Woosah, on the fact that Wall Street firms and big consultancies do look beyond the undergrad biz programs for recruits. At Cornell, the co-ed business fraternities are a pipeline for those jobs and they contain top students from a variety of programs across the university including government, econ and foreign languages from the Arts and Sciences School as well as students from the Hotel and Industrial and Labor Relations Schools. GPA is a big factor.</p>