UVA or Rice

<p>I have been accepted into Rice and University of Virginia. I love Rice for many reasons: Prof per student ratio, wonderful research opportunities, college residential system, quality of academics,etc. And what attracts me most at UVA is McIntire School of Commerce which was ranked No. 1 Among Nation's Undergraduate Business Programs(how difficult it is to get into McIntire in sophomore year?). It is a tough choice because I have not decided my major. And I might go to a grad business school in the future. As an international student, I can't visit the schools, so most of my feelings of these schools are based on their websites and brochures. Could anyone give me some advice (in terms of academics, grad school placement, job placement, reputation, etc.)? </p>

<p>I would appreciate your comments on both schools. </p>

<p>Thanks a lot.</p>

<p>UVA…no contest!!!
Isn’t Rice a private university?
Trust me, you do not want to be in a HUGE debt after undergrad. Grad school is okay, but not undergrad. UVA has so much to offer. Your an international student and UVA is the only university to be a part of the World Heritag Site!! Basically it’s like you can say you go to school at the Great wall of china! LOL
Do what your heart tells you.
Either way, you can’t really go wrong.</p>

<p>I never much cared for the Comm School lot at UVA. Don’t get me wrong, a ton of my friends were comm schoolers, but ask one of them what they actually do and well… you don’t really get an answer.</p>

<p>But I can attest that a UVA Comm School degree will get you a pretty high paying and not-too-difficult job after you graduate. Assuming the economy has recovered.</p>

<p>As for the rest of UVA, I loved it and would recommend it to most. </p>

<p>But that’s my just anecdotal experience talking.</p>

<p>anarchy…that was heck of a lot of generalizations you just made:</p>

<p>“Don’t get me wrong, a ton of my friends were comm schoolers, but ask one of them what they actually do and well… you don’t really get an answer.”</p>

<p>“But I can attest that a UVA Comm School degree will get you a pretty high paying and not-too-difficult job after you graduate. Assuming the economy has recovered.”</p>

<p>so you don’t like people at the comm school, even though they’re your friends, because when you ask them what they “do”, they “don’t really [give you] and answer”. and after they get their degrees, which they got even though they can’t really explain what they studied, they got easy high-paying jobs.</p>

<p>what a lucid, well-articulated point of view…</p>

<p>/s</p>

<p>People at UVA generalize and stereotype all the time, you might not personally, but most do. He never said he didn’t like Comm Schoolers, besides what he says does have some truth behind it.</p>

<p>@jaybird201 - It’s just a point of view from my experience at UVA. Comm Schoolers seemed to do a lot of group projects and focus on group think, being more of an Independent Studies (PST actually) kinda guy, I didn’t really find it an attractive major. The kids at the Comm School are fine, regular UVA kids, and as I said, many of my friends were there.</p>

<p>When I said “ask them what they do and you won’t get an answer” - what I meant was that many of my Comm School friends admitted that they didn’t do a ton of work, and that the hardest part about the Comm School was the application to get into it. That said - it’s a great way to get a very high paying job when you graduate doing very mysterious things like “consulting.” Great work if you can get it though.</p>

<p>As for the last part of your post “and after they get their degrees, which they got even though they can’t reallye xplain what they studied, they got easy high-paying jobs” - yes, that’s pretty much exactly right. It’s actually a pretty cool racket if it’s what you want to get into. I simply said it wasn’t for me. But it sounds like it could be the author of the thread.</p>

<p>Ditto…all of my comm school friends right now are working for BearingPoint, Deloitte, etc, they all do “consulting”, whatever that means. They were never interested in the liberal arts or in learning for the sake of learning.</p>

<p>jaybird201 you dont even go to UVA (Anarchy Bunny does) and you are HOPING to get into McIntire with a 3.7 from community college? </p>

<p>firstquartermoon read this letter from an actual student at McIntire, I asked him about Comm 300 and McIntire: </p>

<p>"Comm 300 is more bull***** than it is difficult. Participation at McIntire is heavily weighted (like 35 % for my current class) so there are many students who arent as intelligent who get decent grades because they speak out in class. I have suffered a great deal from this, and had horrible grades last semester, despite exemplary work (for the most part) on individual assignments like tests, etc.</p>

<p>I really do not like the subject matter that some of the classes are comprised of, and if you’re thinking of transferring, I would make a point of looking around at all the other undergrad business schools before you do so. McIntire did not end up being what I thought it would. I do enjoy Charlottesville, and UVA as a whole, but McIntire is a bit pompous, overinflated with its own ego. As I said before, I ended up with a 3.0 my first semester, and I watched people who had a far less able grasp of the material receive higher marks because they spoke more in class. I personally don’t think it is reflective of actual intelligence.</p>

<p>I would just say, look before you leap if you’re considering transferring. That said, I think doing econ in the college would be more enjoyable, better curriculum, more chances to take interesting classes outside your major. I think an undergraduate business education is somewhat of a joke, you should be expanding your mind at this point, not trying to think like a business person. Its simply too much bull*****.</p>

<p>And besides, if you do econ, you’ll probably get better grades and still have access to recruiting.</p>

<p>Hope that helps, I just had to be honest with you."</p>

<p>He says in another letter that he hasn’t learned anything and that he doesn’t feel ready and wishes that he stayed at Clemson. He has an internship with at regional bank in Richmond as a consultant.</p>

<p>UVA is a great atmosphere overall, it is a shame you can’t visit, after I visited I felt a lot better about UVA</p>