UWS or Rose-hulman for CS or CE undergraduate!!???!

<p>I am debating between these two, now...</p>

<p>im an international student, and i am almost sure that i will apply for graduate school in US.</p>

<p>UWS i know it is a big school, and ranked 41 for national college. Of course i can meet more people and experience a real US college life in UWS, and i really like the location. But i know professors usually only teach big class in UWS and it is a little hard to find them after class if i have any questions need to talk to the professors face to face.</p>

<p>Rose-Hulman ranked top one for undergraduate engineering, im sure it is a great engineering school, and the most attracted thing to me is all the professors in Rose focus on teaching undergraduates, so it's really convenient to find them if i have questions. But i heard students in Rose do lots lots homework, so i wonder do they also have good social lives? I am a girl, there is only 20% students in Rose are girl... so like how is girls' lives in Rose? and the location of Rose-hulman is kinda like in the middle of no where...</p>

<p>so far i guess you guys maybe think that this girl probably just wanna have fun in college.. haha... well.. to be honest, i think engineering students do not have much time to have fun no matter where they are.. :P</p>

<p>another concern is to apply graduate school..
i know the location of a university is pretty important because the companies most likely would be happy to hire students around that area, if im planning to go to work right after my undergraduate i would choose UWS for sure, but since now im planning to apply graduate school, is the location still important??
i really dont know much about how these two schools doing on students going to graduates school..
so could you guys tell me any information about this if you know anything, please?!! :)</p>

<p>and.. please please give me some ideas that which school i should choose, please!!!!!</p>

<p>Hey!
So UW is one of the top ranked universities for CSE (I want to say number 7 in the US, but that number may have changed). Professors/Lecturers DO teach large lectures, but only introductory courses. In the CS/CE department, this is CSE 142 and 143, with around 250-350 people in each class.</p>

<p>Honestly, it’s not hard to find the professors after class. I’ve never had trouble talking to my professors. They hold office hours after class (or before class), and if you can’t make it to those hours, you can schedule a personal meeting with them! They really try to make it easy for you to get help. Most people think it’s hard to contact professors, but really, they sit in their office and wait. and wait. and wait for people to come.</p>

<p>I’m taking 300 level courses in the CSE department right now and my classes are around 40-50 people in each. My professors and TAs hold a LOT of office hours, and they check their emails very regularly.</p>

<p>If you’re planning on a Masters degree in CSE, I still suggest UWS as an undergrad. First, they have the 5 year BS/MS program, where you can apply to finish your BS and MS in 5 years instead of taking another two years to finish an MS. </p>

<p>Another question I have for you is, since you are an international student, do you plan on staying in Seattle during summer time or going back home? If you’re staying here, I highly recommend UWS for undergrad. There are a TON of internship opportunities (even freshmen get internships sometimes!) for the summer. You really want those connections to build up your experience and resume for post-graduate! </p>

<p>For more information: [UW</a> CSE Education](<a href=“http://www.cs.washington.edu/education/]UW”>Education | Paul G. Allen School of Computer Science & Engineering)</p>

<p>A “Why Choose CSE” from the CS department: [Why</a> Choose CSE?](<a href=“http://www.cs.washington.edu/education/ugrad/admit/whycse.html]Why”>http://www.cs.washington.edu/education/ugrad/admit/whycse.html)</p>

<p>If you have any other questions, please don’t hesitate to ask!</p>

<p>Speedslover:</p>

<p>Thank you soo much!! you definitely helped me to know more about UWS CS!!</p>

<p>umm… my another question is, i got accepted to the college of arts and science, it does not say what’s my major is gonna be, so like what does it mean? i applied to computer science, i know CS is in the college of arts and science, but how do i know did i really get in the CS department? or i dont need to worry about the major thing until sophomore year? </p>

<p>and if i do not need to choose my major in freshman year, and actually i really want to try to graduate undergraduate in three years, what do i need to do ? i mean of course i need to take more courses if i want to graduate earlier, is it possible to get the classes i want to take? </p>

<p>Thank you soo much for the internship advices!!! but is it still easy to get an internship as an international students??</p>

<p>No problem!</p>

<p>So for the freshman class, direct admit decisions have been sent out already. This means you’ll need to apply for CS major sometime in your freshman or sophomore year.</p>

<p>Here’s more information about applying: [Application</a> Review Process](<a href=“http://www.cs.washington.edu/education/ugrad/admit/reviewprocess.html]Application”>http://www.cs.washington.edu/education/ugrad/admit/reviewprocess.html)</p>

<p>Requirements before applying:
[CSE</a> Admission Requirements](<a href=“http://www.cs.washington.edu/education/ugrad/admit/programapply.html]CSE”>http://www.cs.washington.edu/education/ugrad/admit/programapply.html)</p>

<p>@Question on graduating early - It really depends what classes you’re trying to get into. I haven’t had any trouble getting my classes, and I’m planning on graduating after 3 years (maybe 4 if I want to spend more time at UW). Some people have trouble getting into REALLY popular classes. Those are usually the ‘easier’ classes, and I’m actually thinking about taking those later (junior year?) to balance out my CSE courses.</p>

<p>Internships… so the thing with internships is that they don’t ask you if you’re international, out of state, or in state student. When I did interviews, interviewers were only concerned with your ability to preform. If you know your material, are very well versed with data structures (and other topics, but this could be a completely new thread) and can communicate well (a lot of group work in the real world!), you will have no problem getting an internship.</p>

<p>Thank you!!! I do appreciate it!!!</p>

<p>i looked up the websites you give me, and it does answered lots of my questions about major stuffs. :)</p>

<p>No problem! If you have more personal questions, or if you’re wondering about a specific course track, you can also ask the advisors!</p>

<p>[url=&lt;a href=“Contact Advising | Paul G. Allen School of Computer Science & Engineering”&gt;Contact Advising | Paul G. Allen School of Computer Science & Engineering]Advising[/url</a>]</p>

<p>Wow!!! that’s great!!! i was just looking for this!!! lol!!
thank you !!! so!! much!!!</p>

<p>Hahaha no problem! They’ll be happy to talk to potential undergrads, so don’t hesitate to contact them =)</p>