It’s not a rare story. I know another guy that had a heart attach right after. Thankfully he is OK now.
Go to Vaers / CDC website and you will see all the (alleged) deaths so far from this vaccine and it has only been around for a few months. We do not know what the long term effect will be with the spike protein. The website has all the details of each person. Don’t take my word for it. Please look into it. How do you know that 3.8 million actually died of covid?
How do you know all of those self reports are true and caused by the vaccine?
I know of only one person (out of a lot of people) who says she has bad side effects from the vaccine weeks later and she’s well known for exaggerating anything/everything, plus complained of those exact same symptoms often before Covid even existed. She’s likely one of your data points, but no doctor will agree with her.
ETA and if you tell her to go see a doctor about them to see what is really wrong, she won’t.
My guy has been working in a hospital (is there now) and has seen a lot of Covid patients. How come he has yet to see a bad reaction from the vaccine - even among his co-workers of all ages who have had it? Wouldn’t so many affected mean the odds of his seeing them coming through would be high or do they all stay away from hospitals and doctors?
Anyone can say anything on VAERS without any proof whatsoever. I would not conclude anything about vaccine related deaths from reading VAERS and neither should you.
"Limitations of VAERS:
Lest you think the above is personal opinion or biased shade being thrown on VAERS, that comes directly from the VAERS website.
The only thing you can conclude by looking at data from VAERS is the need to study something further. Please do not use VAERS to prop up unsubstantiated claims of causation for deaths after vaccines.
I will keep going back to the fact that it’s very easy to avoid getting Covid if you take proper precautions. If you get the vaccine and draw the short straw with a negative side effect you can’t avoid that.
Avoiding Covid by continuing to avoid people via known methods is definitely an option, but my family prefers getting out and about with things returning to normal. It’s been fun traveling and hugging people without worry. Shopping and meetings are more enjoyable too.
I have no problems with those who want to remain secluded TBH. It is the only way to avoid any possible side effect from Covid itself or the vaccine, similar to how not traveling at all is the only way to avoid car accidents or plane crashes.
It’s not how we personally want to live though. With traveling we’ll just use seat belts, skip using the phone while driving, and go with the odds.
I have the opposite experience. Someone in my immediate family is a doctor and works at a large medical center and has seen the vaccine injuries and at least one death and has yet to come across someone with complications of covid. Go figure. I trust my immediate family member much more than whatever the MSM is feeding people. You and I will agree to disagree. I find it ridiculous and dangerous to give this vaccine to children with a 99.9% survival rate
Curious…is your family in direct contact with Covid patients or are they a specialist separated from those patients? Because they may be the first doctor who has NEVER seen anyone with complications for Covid. I’ll trust all the other doctors in the world.
It’s gotten a lot easier to avoid now that so many other people have been vaccinated. That’s one reason I’m vaccinated and why I’m grateful to everyone else who is vaccinated.
This. For someone who is capable or chooses to make prudent decisions in order to avoid catching Covid (and thus obviously avoid passing it to others . . . ) this vaccine may be unnecessary.
Yes, it becomes less necessary as more and more people get vaccinated. As we support overall public health, the unvaccinated reap the benefits.
i’ve been relucant about getting the vax for my 15 yr old for a few reasons.
but finally, it was the honor code mask ask that did us in. didn’t want to lie; she didnt want to wear the mask.
We had a little incident. on her second shot at target this week. Her friend went with to support her as D is afraid of needles (so is the friend; i thought the ease of it all might encourage the friend). after D’s shot we walked over to the in-store Starbucks, and then we looked on the floor, and her friend was laying there- she had fainted! Management all came running over, got her a wheelchair and free drinks at starbucks for her blood sugar . . . . and my D was just shaking her head because she’s the one who got the shot. I dont think her friend will get vax after that, but we certainly tried.
My daughter has fainted a few times from her own pain or anxiety about medical procedures and once witnessing her sister get blood drawn. It can be scary (and embarrassing for a teenager 
). We though she might feel faint from the Covid vaccine, but she was fine. We did let the person who administered the vaccine know about the potential for fainting or light headedness.
She won’t get the vaccine because she fainted from watching her friend get the vaccine?
I have a similar family member who is a medical provider and has seen some pretty adverse reactions to the vaccine. They have also been exposed numerous times to the virus with no ill effect on themselves or colleagues. There’s a lot about both that we just don’t quite know yet.
For those interested, I found the following NYT piece to be pretty insightful. In case it hasn’t been posted yet: The Morning: Fox News on trial
Syncope is listed as one of the more common responses to the vaccine on VAERS for that age group; but I don’t think they’ve tracked the reaction of friends or companions!
On the other hand, 600,000 had it and are now dead. 2.2 million had it and were hospitalized.
You talk about long term effects of the vaccine? We don’t know the long term effects of COVID 19. There may be long-term neurological effects that we don’t know about.
BTW, what test did you take to check whether you had COVID 19? Many are not that reliable.
Brain hemorrhages affect about 40,000-67,000 people a year in the USA. About 175,000,000 people in the USA have received at least one shot.
What is the chance that there is a person who suffers from a brain hemorrhage after a vaccine, without it being related to the vaccine? About 100%, and there will be many cases. There will be people who have heart attacks after the vaccine, people who will have perforated ulcers after the vaccine, people who will find cancer after the vaccine.
Half the population of the USA has received at least one shot. Furthermore, it is the older half.
The vaccine protects against COVID, not against all the other hundreds of medical conditions that people had. So, we can expect that people who got the vaccine will have the same hundreds of medical conditions that they would have had without the vaccine.
Since we’re using stories, rather than data, I can say that while I know at least half a dozen people who died from COVID, or who lost a relative or friend to the virus, I do not know a single person who has suffered from severe health issues from the vaccine.
To continue with anecdotes, I personally know about 20 people who actually got the virus, and I know of about 200 more (friends and relatives of friends). As I wrote, some half a dozen of these died from COVID. I would guess that there were many more who were infected, and I didn’t hear about it since they were either a moderate, light, or asymptomatic cases, so it never came up.
On the other hand, almost every one of the adults among my friends and family, as well as their friends and family, have received the vaccine. We’re talking about hundreds to more than a thousand in my extended network of friends, family, and acquaintances (I have lived in two countries, 5 states, went to 3 high schools, attended two universities, have worked at another 3 universities, and was associated with another two, and have been active in a number of organizations, so I know many may people). Not one of the hundreds of these people who got the vaccine has had a brain hemorrhage, or any other severe health issue.
Again, I will repeat - there have been millions of people vaccinated in Israel, and yet there are no reports connected the vaccination if brain hemorrhages. When there were only 130 cases of myocarditis reported following a shot, it was enough for this to be studied and verified. That is 3 cases out of 100,000 shots. The fact that no such issue appeared with brain hemorrhages, indicates that, if this actually is a side effect, it is incredible rare. I mean 1/1,000,000 rare. You are probably more likely to die from falling out of your bed (450 a year in the USA, from 330,000,000 people) than from getting a brain hemorrhage as the result of receiving a Pfizer vaccine.
So, half of the USA has received vaccines, and anti-vaxxers have managed to show maybe 100 cases of serious side health issues that may, perhaps, have been the result of the vaccines.
That is 100 cases from 174,000,000 people who were vaccinated.
On the other hand, of the 33,000,000 people who got COVID, 600,000 died.
So 52% the population gets the vaccine, and maybe 300 get sick, and there is a wailing and howling and gnashing of the teeth from Vaccine “skeptics”, about how deadly the vaccines are.
On the other hand, 2,000 times as many die and 7,000 times as many are hospitalized after only 10%-20% of the population is infected by COVID 19, and vaccine “skeptics” are claiming “oh, the virus is not that bad”.
It makes no sense, has no logic, and boggles my mind.
BTW, here are actual medical conditions that have been proven to affect hundreds of thousands of people who were infected with the virus:
https://healthcare.utah.edu/publicaffairs/news/2021/04/covid-stroke.php
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laneur/article/PIIS1474-4422(20)30221-0/fulltext
Yes, and it was criminally irresponsible on the part of the parents who blithely exposed their own children and anyone else’s to chicken pox. My daughter almost died of a full body strep infection from chicken pox when she was 18 months old. Is that rare? Fairly, but not an unheard of side effect. Is it an anecdote? Sure it is, unless it’s your baby suffering.
Anyone who willfully exposes their children or anyone else to a virus that is even sometimes deadly is playing Russian roulette and I have no problem with publicly shaming them.
That is correct. That’s always the case with large-scale vaccination. In our state, you can refuse to be vaccinated and still attend school. Those children have little to worry about because most in the state are pro-vaccine.
Then there is the little issue of the fact that a person is never “cured” from chicken pox. Shingles can hit you at any time in your life.
Ah - I see someone else posted those stats. Perspective, Lindagaf, perspective. Perhaps if the posters on this thread were as enthusiastic about safe driving, there would be fewer children dying in car crashes?