<p>mombee, I am referring to your bickering over the definition of “share”, chill. </p>
<p>And I would greatly appreciate it in the future if you did not call my honor into quesion via an internet forum before you have a chance to meet me and get my full views on a subject.</p>
<p>Your pattern of ad hominem attacks has greatly disconcerted me sir/ma’am and honestly, I would would be nice it if you could refrain from any such insults if you would please.</p>
<p>midn’12, your propensity to support those who wish to disparage YOUR classmate, YOUR leader, YOUR Academy, and YOUR Navy is obvious, and disturbing.</p>
<p>It has nothing to do with honor but everything to do with loyalty. You ARE a link in the chain.</p>
<p>Sorry, no matter how hard I look I don’t see more than one cigar in the pics of Irwin and Agosta. Here’s a different pic:</p>
<p>[Meghan</a> Agosta - Zimbio](<a href=“http://www.zimbio.com/Meghan+Agosta]Meghan”>http://www.zimbio.com/Meghan+Agosta)</p>
<p>The pic Luigi posted with Agost and Hefford is a different story, and that one doesn’t mention “sharing” a cigar as the first story (Washington Post) did. </p>
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<p>WP - just had to tell you I love number 4. Especially the visual of Marcus Curry attempting to figure skate - whether under the influence of any illegal substances or not!</p>
<p>You know I have no real reason for being on this (Naval Academy) forum any more but it’s just so much more interesting than the WP or AF ones with their “Is there ample milk available in the Mess Hall?” and “X days until graduation” countdown threads! ;)</p>
<p>MOMBEE, STOP SEEKING FIGHTS </p>
<p>I have no propensity to support anyone, I am just trying to bring a sense of decency to this website. Every thread here bears the mark of people taking snipes at eachother. Please stop.</p>
<p>I assure you I have no opinion one way or the other, I honestly do not care what people think about my school or the people in it. I am here doing what I am paid to do and focusing on developing myself as seems to be the mission imposed upon me. Please, stop calling me out and taking everything I say as an attack on you. I promise you it is not.</p>
<p>To all others, please let this thread die. It has run it’s course.</p>
<p>USNA84’s post was enlightening, but from the view of a “company honor rep”, that is not the same as the view of “the honor committee”. The “company honor rep” is there to aid midshipmen in their own companies, to support them and be that leader who tries to accept them if everyone else detests that person for the honor violation committed.</p>
<p>The brigade honor staff and what they do is much different from what a company honor advisor does. Someone who is a company honor advisor does not have the perspective that someone who is seeing cases from all 30 companies might have, and is certainly not a member of the “honor committee”.</p>
<p>Until the brigade detests acts of dishonor, then they will continue to happen. Ross Perot said that until the Brigade detests dishonorable acts, we will never be able to get rid of them. I wish I could explain this “blue plate special” in more detail, but I do think that the administration of such punishment will help aid in the containment of dishonorable acts.</p>
<p>I also served on the Honor Staff (as Secretary, even). I’d still give you the same answer. It’s everyone’s job, not just the Honor Committee’s.</p>
<p>As an old prof of mine was fond of saying, “You can’t legislate morality.” You’re right; when the Brigade as a whole detests acts of dishonor then things will change. Unfortunately, one person’s view of something as a detestable act is in another’s a defensible and justifiable action. Very few things are black and white - even in the relatively cloistered world of USNA.</p>
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<p>Not the statements of a product of the Mission of the Naval Academy or someone well versed in the Laws of the Navy. Buckle down.</p>
<p>yea MIDN’12 … buckle up buttercup, lest you end up a babbling, unpatriotic, angry ol’ nut job, deluded thinking you shoulda, coulda, woulda been an admiral and now you’re just sitting @ your pooter peckin’ and pontificatin’ ! :eek: </p>
<p>You’d just better shape up or ship out! 
(Nothing personal, of course.:rolleyes:)</p>
<p>MIDN12 . . . you ask that which is unattainable. Merely be satisfied to learn a
lesson in what you don’t want to become: An old man w/ nothing better to do than populate many, many different websites with mindless criticisms of EVERY post.</p>
<p>Thanks guys. Mombee please, feel free to continue this conversation via private message so we may stop cluttering up the general forum. You seem to have some strong views on the duty of juniors to never, to a “T”, never question the actions of their seniors. I would happily debate this point in private.</p>
<p>Nothing to debate. I agree with you totally. </p>
<p>However, if you cannot ascertain the difference between the appropriateness of knocking on your senior’s door, using the chain of command, and anonymously complaining on a forum, by all means, PM me and I will explain it to you.</p>
<p>“However, …”</p>
<p>Always a BIG “BUT …” ;)</p>
<p>midn’12…DON’T try the “Yea, but …” on your senior. Trust me. Won’t work there. Doesn’t work here. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>The question really is whether or not any OTHERS can ascertai the difference between utilizing the chain of command and anonymously complaining on a forum. This is a meaningless internet forum; 98% of the words posted hereon are worthless, don’t mean a thing.<br>
MIDN’12 . . .don’t take the bait. You will find that you can’t argue, negotiate, or educate those who have nothing better to do wiht their life than lurk around a site intended for college-aged or college-bound students.</p>
<p>You have things to do. You still have a life. Answer questions from those who are interested in learning about the Academy, not from those who are self-professed experts on everything. AFter all, they already know it all.</p>
<p>Wise counsel, counselor. midn’12, trust it.</p>
<p>Thanks guys, I never realized what some people on this site had turned it into. I used it extensively when I was applying and thought I would give some of the help back from the inside. I’ll leave this one lie. </p>
<p>As always, if someone has any beef with me or my views, please feel free to PM me so we can discuss it. I love a healthy debate. ;)</p>
<p>I apologized for the turn this thread has taken. I think it really has served it’s purpose. We can all agree it is time to let it die.</p>
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<p>Sounds a lot like when Preuher replaced Habermayer, only more so. Good!</p>
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<p>Brilliantly simple! I approve!</p>
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<p>That’s not a rant! It’s a sigh of relief, and well-deserved!</p>
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<p>Unless you’re pushing the sham of man-made global warming, in which case you’re exempt. ;)</p>
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<p>Nice to see some things haven’t changed around here. :D</p>
<p>Hey Luigi59 –</p>
<p>As some in this thread wrote that you are biased against the USNA, I decided to look at your past Threads to see if there might be some truth to that.</p>
<p>I found that the vast majority of the Threads you’ve authored are supportive of the US Coast Guard Academy, and to a lesser degree of USMA. It seems you only create a thread about the USNA when you want to point out something you find wrong… with management, with students, etc.</p>
<p>I don’t get why you exhert energy throwing mud primarily in the direction of Annapolis. Were you or a child not admitted, or something… I don’t get you.</p>
<p>Jeez, I wish you hadn’t done that. Ever heard the phrase, “Like a red rag to a bull?” :)</p>
<p>I think I can crystallize the response you’re likely to get from Luigi - who is generally a good source of info for candidates - he will say, “Hey, I don’t make the news; I just report it.”</p>
<p>Make that a shamwow to a steer. :eek: :p</p>