Vanderbilt, Duke, Stanford, UCLA

<p>it's general consensus that Penn is academically kept afloat by Wharton. The CAS is such a joke. All my freinds who go there don't even take it seriously and get 4.0s</p>

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it's general consensus that Penn is academically kept afloat by Wharton. The CAS is such a joke. All my freinds who go there don't even take it seriously and get 4.0s

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<p>That's entirely incorrect, my honey dumpling stew.</p>

<p>According to Penn Facts: Penn:</a> Facts and Figures</p>

<p>There are 1,866 Wharton kids total.</p>

<p>This is 467/class.</p>

<p>There are 2,430 kids per class.</p>

<p>467/2430 = .192, or 19.2% of the school is in Wharton.</p>

<p>As you may have surmised by now, this means that less than 1/5 of Penn is Wharton.</p>

<p>This, plus the fact that Wharton's SAT average is only 14 points higher than CAS's, plus the fact that CAS's acceptance rate = the overall acceptance rate reported to US News and all other rankings (<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/636404-cas-acceptance-rate-step-right-up.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/636404-cas-acceptance-rate-step-right-up.html&lt;/a&gt;), leads a logical person to believe that Wharton DOES NOT drag up Penn's rank, but is indeed properly representative of CAS.</p>

<p>Would anyone disagree, and cite facts in so doing?</p>

<p>I should also point out that ALL Ivy League schools, with the possible exceptions of Princeton and Cornell, are ridiculously easy to well at. I haven't heard anyone complain about difficulty of getting good grades from any college, unless they were pre-med. </p>

<p>My friends at Brown joke that they don't even get an education; they just get A's.</p>

<p>In other words, Scotchtape - you just got PWNED. By a girl, no less. You can cry; I'll console you.</p>

<p>haha... i meant by public perception. Penn = Wharton. nice try though.</p>

<p>Oh, did you take a statistical poll "public perception"? Sorry, you just got PWNED by your own ridiculous assertion.</p>

<p>I understand that it's hard to go to a school that's no longer in the top-10, I'm sorry, really.</p>

<p>More like Jodie Foster/Candace Bergen. A hot c<em>nt, as I believe it's known. Believe me, I'm pretty. But I also don't have time for bull</em>**** from dumbass Dartmouth kids.</p>

<p>yo muert, hit me up @ 218-344-6313- i'm free on weekends and enjoy chinese food, long walks on the beach, and spending my days on message boards denouncing colleges that are better than penn</p>

<p>you probably do... considering ur responding to all my flames haha</p>

<p>Cool, I love pretending lower ranked colleges are actually good.</p>

<p>This thread is full of fail and pretty much everybody posting in it up to this point has lost.</p>

<p>What is the obsession with people on this site getting into ****ing contests with each other over whose school (or prospective school, which is even funnier) is better? Give it a break.</p>

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he SAT averages are negligibly different; some years Penn is ahead by 10 points, other years Dartmouth is ahead by 10 points. But when that accounts for 3 points/section, that's not comparable.
In terms of HS ranking, Penn DESTROYS Dartmouth. Penn had 99% of incoming freshman from the top decile of their HS classes. Dartmouth about 92% last year.

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<p>Penn has never had higher SATs than Dartmouth; before this decade it wasn't even close. The % of top 10% of hs class is a meaningless stat to compare schools considering how many these schools are rejecting who were in the top 2% of their hs class. They could both easily have 100% in top 10% of hs class.</p>

<p>Lol 98.9% is the ADMITTED! stat, not the actual class stat at Penn. Its 94%. Dartmouth is 92%. Not really different. You would think a bunch of Penn fans would know how to read data.</p>

<p>i'm a ucla '11 and i got waitlisted at stanford. i live in california though, don't know how this affects yours.</p>

<p>my SAT score was a 2000, unweighted GPA was 3.99997 (one b), weighted was around 4.7 i think. ranked 2/550ish.</p>

<p>i even applied with a biochemistry major which i didn't even keep. don't know what else is being discussed here, i think you have a good chance at ucla/stanford.</p>

<p>stop worrying you'll be fine :)</p>

<p>Duke, UPenn, and Stanford are ranked highest of all those.</p>

<p>Stanford–4
UPenn–6
Duke–8</p>

<p>Dartmouth is 11, while UCLA and Vandy are in the 20s I think.</p>

<p>Case closed.</p>