Very complex issue

Pre-College Issues High School Life
21

<p>James, you are probably going to end up at NCSSM. Don't worry about that AA degree if you get into NCSSM. Just take the CC courses just to stimulate your education during your sophomore year. You should follow what I am doing with my UNCGi courses right now, just know that you are getting a good college-level education and don't mind the college credits you are earning. It doesn't matter if you get credit or not; you still have cultivated an excellent base from which you can proceed with higher learning. </p>

<p>Under the scenario where you don't get into NCSSM, don't get out of high school that early. Trust me, I considered in autumn of '07 of just applying to Guilford College or NC State just to get out of senior year; just drop out and get my G.E.D. and go straight to college. I really was/am sick of high school, but I am trucking through and piling up a ton of work for myself. Junior and Senior year take as many CC classes as you can. You get them for free. You have access to over 20 or so AP courses online through NCVPS. Max those out. You are capable of that.</p>

<p>You will have an amazing record even if you don't get accepted into NCSSM (although you probably will.) Shoot for the stars after that.</p>

<p>You have an even better chance than I do at getting into great colleges. Your school has obviously opened up opportunities for you. When I was a freshman, no one ever told me I didn't have to waste my time taking Computer Applications 1 and garbage like that. They never told me I could take AP courses. In fact, they even discourage me from taking online courses right now. I really feel regretful about my earlier high school days considering all that I didn't get exposed to. Sure, I took the standard Honors World History/English 1/Geometry/Earth Science and stuff, but that wasn't challenging to me. You are like me a lot when I was a freshman, but you have the potential to go a lot higher with what your school has exposed you to. Just pile up your course load with tons of UNCGi // CC // Online AP courses // Honors // In life AP courses and you will be fine, with or without NCSSM. Don't worry about that AA! Go through all FOUR years of high school and end up with one of these über-CCer schedules and go to HYPS, or try some other similar-tier school. You still have a long way to go though!</p>

<p>~Sligh</p>

22

<p>Either 6 or 12. Probably 6. why?</p>

23

<p>@Sebastian (since we are apparently using first names now ;) )
<a href="http://web.uncg.edu/dcl/web/pdf/IS_Step_1_2_3_F08_Sp09.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://web.uncg.edu/dcl/web/pdf/IS_Step_1_2_3_F08_Sp09.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>2008-2009 courses posted Eh... I think I'd like the Phil course... do you have notes? </p>

<p>I wasn't planning on doing anything as drastic as the GED... But I can't have more than two years of cc (which would be through the end of my Junior year.)<br>
I also have to make sure that I have my High School graduate requirements while I work on AP courses. Thank you for your confidence! I'll have to work on that cancer curing EC. (Actually, if I go to science and math I feel I might have a chance at some of those uber science and math competitions...)</p>

<p>How's this for a tentative plan? (asking anyone):
Sophomore year (I'll talk to my counselor though)</p>

<p>Summer:
Courses: contingent on Learn and Earn offerings
Study for AP Cal BC
Probably start city scrabble club
volunteer </p>

<p>1st Semester:
Self study AP Psych
AP Calculus BC (Or CC cal 1))
CC General Chemistry I (Graduation requirement)
English II Honors (Graduation requirement) (Block schedule)
Civics and Economics Honors (Graduation requirement)
UNCG-I Contemporary Moral Problems </p>

<p>Apply to NCSSM </p>

<p>(This leads me to a schedule where I have 5,4,5,4,5 one week, and 4,5,4,5,4 the next)</p>

<p>2nd Semester:
AP Calculus BC continued (or CC cal 2)
English II Honors (graduation requirement) (Block schedule)
CC General Biology I
CC General Chemistry II (Or Honors Earth Environmental)</p>

<p>(This leads to 4,3,4,3,4 and 3,4,3,4,3 schedules.)</p>

<p>(This schedule would allow me to take all AP courses Junior year, plus Calculus III and Differential equations at the CC if I'm not accepted at NCSSM) </p>

<p>Summer: Apply to Harvard Secondary, Summer ventures (helps with NCSSM admissions I've heard, and I'm interested), RECAP (helps with NCSSM admissions I've also heard, and I'm interested), and Stanford Undergraduate EPGY (I asked them, as a dually enrolled student I can take Undergraduate courses with them if accepted. If accepted this is what I'll do.)</p>

<p>@Linnus Because if you were in like 11,7, 12, 10, or possibly 5 what you are describing would make a lot of sense.</p>

24

<p>oh...UNCG...which high school do you go to (can you pm me)...it seems we are fairly close O.o;;;</p>

25

<p>@ Linnus</p>

<p>aigiqinf, myself, and you are all pretty geographically close ;-)</p>

<p>@ James</p>

<p>That plan sounds very well thought-out and rigorous. Good job. Looks like UNCGi didn't add any new courses for next year. I hope that list is still tentative. You will like Philosophy 121; it is awesome. I didn't save any of my notes, otherwise I would fax them to you for next year. I only took notes on the first module (sort of difficult material on logic) and module seven and eight just because it was the final exam material and I wanted to guarantee I came out of the course with an A-. I came out with an A though! ;-)</p>

<p>I didn't apply to summer ventures; I have no clue why because I would have gotten in just on my stats alone. I was feeling really bogged down with NCSSM applications, so I didn't apply. Worst. Decision. Ever.</p>

<p>I have gotten mail from Stanford recently about their EPGY program. It far too expensive for my tastes; however, it seems like a VERY good program if you have the money for it. If my school would pay for it, I would definitely do it!</p>

<p>Mein krankes Gehirn (as I like to say a lot in German -> My insane brain) is still frantic over whether or not to take AP Biology next year online. When it comes time to register for courses in a month and a half, my decision will probably be totally random. I also thought about AP Physics B online, but I have a friend who is taking that online and says it is major hard without a physics background.</p>

26

<p>@ sligh
I am taking AP physic C. I wouldn't say it is an easy class but if you like science and math (I assume you do), I would suggest you to take it. I would also recommend you yo take AP physics C rather than B (if they offer it)...because colleges usually don't give credits for AP physics B since it doesn't require any calculus.<br>
Good luck!</p>

27

<p>@ Linnus</p>

<p>Unfortunately, North Carolina Virtual Public School doesn't offer AP Physics C, only AP Physics B. My school actually offered AP Physics B three years ago, but the school only gave the teacher a semester to teach it. The class was a disaster considering none of the students had a physics background of any kind. This year, my school even canceled Honors Physics because no one signed up for it; everyone opted for Anatomy & Physiology as a senior science course. I am hoping that I can convince everyone in my class (I am a junior) to sign up for Honors Physics instead of Anatomy & Physiology; however, almost all of the girls are looking at becoming nurses, so that probably won't happen. In the case that this happens, I will either sign up for online AP Biology or AP Physics B.</p>

<p>UNC - Chapel Hill gives credit for AP Physics B. Here is their credit policy:</p>

<hr>

<p>Physics B // Score: 5 // Physics 104, 105 // 8 credit hours</p>

<p>Physics C-Mech // Score: 4 // Physics 104 // 4 credit hours</p>

<p>Physics C-E&M // Score: 4 // Physics 105 // 4 credit hours</p>

<hr>

28

<p>@ sligh</p>

<p>I see. I took adv. physics as a freshmen..and basically forgot everything when I entered AP physics C. The teacher basically taught us everything over again in a faster pace, but I must say, I am glad I didn't take E&M this year lol, might take it next year. I would say Physics C is doable without a physics background. Physics B covers more topic but in less depth. Also... I wasn't talking about UNC in particular. But good luck in convincing ur classmates to take honors physics.</p>

29

<p>@ Linnus</p>

<p>Oh, I was just giving you an example of an excellent school that does offer credit for Physics B. ;-)</p>

<p>I may consider AP Physics B next year given what you have said. I need physics more so than biology, as I already had a pretty intense course in biology.</p>

30

<p>@Sligh</p>

<p>Are you taking any UNCG-I courses this year? Do you think I could get a PE and Health Credit for ESS 220 (physical fitness for life)? Because I don't have a PE credit and bowling is the only PE course at the CC that I'd like to take, but there is never enough interest to offer it. </p>

<p>
[quote]
I have gotten mail from Stanford recently about their EPGY program. It far too expensive for my tastes; however, it seems like a VERY good program if you have the money for it. If my school would pay for it, I would definitely do it!

[/quote]

Well as you know my family currently is having financial problems. From the money I've saved for allowance for the past years I could afford to take between 1 and 2 courses. Of course, I'm really hoping my grandparents on both sides would contribute. (My grandparents may be mentally ill, but they are mentally ill with money. And if they think it is prestigious and they can brag about it they'd give the money.)
As for my plan, I had to think about it for awhile, I made a graph of one period (Like a period of a function, not like a class period) of my courses for each semester. My mom also yelled at me, and that actually helped a lot. (One may not take too many High level courses until you have your graduation requirements.)
Also, make sure you have enough credits, because AP courses online are only 1 HS credit!<br>
@Everyone
How do colleges look at CC courses vs. AP courses. Does it matter if you take CC courses and then do well on AP tests? (I know this is a whole different issue.)</p>

31

<p>Colleges gives out credit based on what you score on the AP test. In other words, if you can get a 5 on certain AP test, and never took the class, colleges that allow credit for that particular ap class would give u credit for it. I'm not sure how do colleges look at CC courses vs. AP courses, I personally would think they probably would like the AP course better (CC just sounds bad =( )</p>

32

<p>LOL I have heard they respect CC course more (taken at an actual college with an actual college professor) but I think it would really matter how you do on the AP exam... but I don't know. </p>

<p>Besides... my AP courses are year-long, online, and I only get 1 credit for them!</p>

33

<p>hmm some colleges don't take credits from CC's while most college do take some type of credits for APs</p>

34

<p>I wasn't hoping to get credit from CC courses, I was hoping take the AP test after the course. Of course, I would probably get credit at UNC-CH. (LOL If you are in an early college program and have an associates, many Ivy league colleges force you to apply as a Freshman applicant.)</p>

35

<p>@ aigiqinf</p>

<p>(Sorry I responded so late, I was out seeing that new movie Cloverfield with some friends.) (It's a freaking awesome movie by the way.)</p>

<p>Yes, I am taking Cultural Anthropology and Sociology 101 this semester with UNCGi. I took Philosophy 121 last semester, as you already know.</p>

<p>I am really not for sure if your school will give you a Health and P.E. credit for Physical Fitness for Life. You should definitely look into that though.</p>

<p>I, personally, wouldn't spend your own allowance money on the Stanford classes. UNCGi // CC // Online AP is enough to show you are kicking butt and taking names in terms of the rigor of your high school studies!</p>

36

<p>I'm sorry, I meant to ask if you were taking any next year? (I know which ones you are taking this year.)
I'll ask them. XD That would be cool.
LOL</p>

<p>Some nice old woman: How are you doing in High School?</p>

<p>Me: I'm kicking butt and taking names! </p>

<p>Speaking of which, I uploaded the wrong file to my AP teacher and my teacher seemed annoyed.</p>

37

<p>@ aigiqinf</p>

<p>Oh! The UNCGi courses I am taking senior year! If I don't take AP Biology or AP Physics B I will take these courses next year:</p>

<p>Social Problems (SOC 201)
American Government (PSC 101)
Drama Appreciation (THR 100)
General Psychology (PSY 121)</p>

<p>Assuming I take an online AP course such as AP Biology or AP Physics B:</p>

<p>Drama Appreciation (THR 100)
American Government (PSC 101)</p>

<hr>

<p>When I get back to school on Friday, I will see if I can start convincing people to sign up for Honors Physics next year. If there is not enough interest to start the class up, I will probably go ahead and take AP Physics B or AP Biology online. If I end up going with the route without an online AP course, I will end up with 21 hours of credit from UNCG. Assuming I do well on my AP exams, I will probably start out as a sophomore when I matriculate into a university (assuming the university accepts all of my credits.)</p>

38

<p>Sligh, I can only imagine how Drama Appreciation would be. (LOL least it isn't Drama History)
I learned today that my school is taking other student out of regular class time (for like 30 minutes) to work on their online courses, which they refused to do for me.</p>

<p>If the give me they same time, I'll have an hour and 45 minutes for Math every other day (because I don't have a math course at my physical school), 30 minutes for Art every other day, and 30 minutes in the morning for either. </p>

<p>I am going to bring in a signed request to take Pre-cal honors this semester (last day is Friday to add, and they keep "forgetting.")</p>

<p>I posted a reply to one of your other threads about Duke's acceptance of credits.</p>

<p>I got a reply from NCSSM
[quote]
We have not had anyone be awarded an associates degree in the past, so I am not sure how we would handle that situation. I know you would have separate graduation requirements here, and you would have to then take all your courses through the school.

[/quote]
</p>

39

<p>That is a very strange way to allocate your time for your online courses. At my school you get a whole period (one hour and thirty minutes) for each of your online classes. If you go into more than four periods (the number of periods at my school) you do the class at home. Although one hour and thirty minutes is way too much time for one online class each day.</p>

<p>Interesting reply from NCSSM. It would be interesting to see how that pans out for you, assuming you get into NCSSM.</p>

40

<p>The only reason I've had any time (other than 30 minutes every other day) is because we have prescribed courses. So:
A day:
WH-H
Eng-H
W-H
End of day, there is no room to fit anything in, we only to go school for 6 hours! (of course, we don't get out until almost 5)</p>

<p>B Day:
Engineering-H
Integrated Math I or II H
Applications of sci-H
So, the only reason I get any time is because I opted out of Integrated for online math classes.</p>

<p>But for instance, my time for Art and Algebra II is the same as another students time for only Geometry.
We are different in about everything as compared to other High Schools. (At other High Schools you couldn't take more than 4 courses a day... even online. The other High Schools assign it to you as a regular class, where we get courses almost al'a carte)</p>