<p>@IJustDrive New York doesn’t have a flagship. She should of course look at Binghampton or Geneseo (which operates as a somewhat smaller honors college in the system), but they aren’t schools top students at competitive high schools get excited about. I expect she’ll apply to one of the SUNY’s, though my kids didn’t.</p>
<p>The SAT is not for your daughter. 1. Whoever did that assessment was wrong. The ACT will measure the content that your daughter has mastered in school. The reason for this discrepancy between score is that the SAT measures aptitude, not intelligence. Your daughters score probably won’t increase anymore. Even with extensive prep, after you take the exam more than twice, your score tends to level off and you don’t improve your score. She will just hover around the score she currently has. 2. If your daughter tests high on the AP exams, it will likely compensate for that score. And just under 2000 is middling. 1500 is middling. 3. She shouldn’t make a list based GPA and SATs. That is setting her up for an unhappy college experience. She should make her list based on majors, diversity, campus feel, and how driven the students are. Believe it or not, the most selective college isn’t always the best college. It depends on what you wanna study. For example, if your daughter wants to become a teacher, why waste $100,000 on Harvard when you can spend $20000 on somewhere like Brooklyn college. You are starting off your search wrong and looking for the wrong things in a school, which is why your daughter is so stressed out. Also, tell her to look at the shocking amount of sexual assaults in ivy leagues. That should calm her down a bit about getting in. Ivy leagues are meant for some, but I don’t think any parent should send their child to a school that cares about reputation more than the safety and well being of students. 5. Though a lot of merit is based on SAT, again GPA and the scores on the APs will do a lot more. But if you are really into getting great aid, again, you are looking at the wrong schools. Ivy aren’t exactly known for being giving trees. Your daughter needs to start her search over from scratch.</p>
<p>Barnard is a tough go for those in the NYC suburbs. A lot of applicants, a lot of legacies, a lot of connections in this area. Barnard can fill their class with very good students within an hour or so of their campus. Scripps or the Massachusetts all women schools are a much better bet. Girl from our church was not accepted to Barnard with great grades AND test scores. Was accepted to Wellesley. And she was legacy. She was also accepted th UMich. </p>
<p>You are all scaring me with the UMich tales. My son has his eye on that school. A few years ago, it would have been a good bet with his numbers, but from what I’m hearing now it’s getting even tougher to gain entry. Seriously, OP, I 'm in the same boat. But my son likes the bigger state schools. He’s hearing the talk though, I can tell you.</p>
<p>“Can anyone suggest other large universities that are like University of Michigan and University of Wisconsin? Doesn’t have to be a public college, though.”</p>
<p>Not the caliber of either of those schools, but I would have her look at UVM (Burlington is a very cool college town) and I’d put Indiana on the list as a safety. Kids I know who have gone to Bloomington from your area in particular have loved it. </p>
<p>How about Penn State? She could apply to the excellent Schreyer Honors College, which has a holistic admissions process and does not consider SAT/ACT scores.</p>
<p>Not sure how much NYU weighs scores but it’s close enough that you could easily visit.</p>
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<p>Interesting. I’ve never heard of Schreyer. I’ll look it up.</p>
<p>Wisconsin is a possibilty, as is Michigan, Ohio State, James Madison, Virginia Tech, College of Charlston, U of South Carolina, Penn State, Pitt, Binghamton, UBuff, UMass, UConn, UMD. UDel. </p>
<p>CMU is also a good pick if she applies to the school of Humanities and Social Sciences( HSS). But getting money, from any of these schools I’ve listed is a whole other issue. </p>
<p>UVA?</p>
<p>Does she have any interest in going West? </p>
<p>Barrett Honors College at Arizona state is pretty popular, or Santa Clara University, or try some UCs–UC Davis or UC Santa Cruz would probably be matches… </p>
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<p>It is TOTALLY a target school for her with her GPA. They use holistic application standards and care a lot about course rigor. This scatterplot shows the GPA range.</p>
<p><a href=“University of Wisconsin-Madison: Acceptance Rate, SAT/ACT Scores, GPA”>http://collegeapps.about.com/od/GPA-SAT-ACT-Graphs/ss/university-of-wisconsin-madison-admission-gpa-sat-act.htm</a></p>
<p>Many, many top students choose UW every year. It is not going to be “beneath” your daughter academically, nor is she going to be surrounded by dolts. </p>
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<p>A longshot for an OOS unless I’m mistaken considering even back when I was in HS, classmates who were admitted to Ivies and peer elite private colleges were getting rejected by UVA. </p>
<p>Granted, UVA was very popular at my HS with the crowd who were applying to schools like Dartmouth, Princeton, Duke, UNC-CH, W & M, etc. </p>
<p>UVA is a highly selective school especially for out of state. </p>
<p>Also, if it turns out to be affordable, Penn State’s Schreyer Honors College is very highly respected and doesn’t consider SATs when making its decisions</p>
<p>For those you still unfamiliar with cobrat’s HS ten years or so ago, the middle 50% SAT scores for UVA’s class of 2017 reportedly ranged from 1990 to 2230.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.examiner.com/article/uva-admits-8-528-for-the-class-of-2017”>http://www.examiner.com/article/uva-admits-8-528-for-the-class-of-2017</a></p>
<p>I think when choosing a college, one needs to consider where he/she wants to live/work some day. </p>
<p>Yes, but Aruba doesn’t have many choices for college. </p>
<p>Yeah, but that’s for retirement.</p>
<p>I see schools like GW, Syracuse, BU, UWisc, UMich, CMU, Fordham,NEU UMD, PSU, Pitt, U Denver, UDel, really most all of the state schools other than some UCs, UVA, UNC-Ch as good possibilities. She should also add some reaches just to see how it goes. Her list is not going to look all that different from those of her peers. Just some more schools that would their matches on her list.</p>
<p>I just don’t get why this gal won’t consider women’s colleges, especially those by a coed school. Why does she want a big state U? Is she into sports? sororities?What is motivating her away from LACs?</p>