Very "peaceful" tibetan "protest" in China

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I can’t believe CNN can say that protest were “peaceful” when you can see rioters beating innocent chinese bystanders in their OWN video! Setting fire on shops and beating ppl with sticks!</p>

<p>I just hope CNN and other western media can REALLY cover stories with UNBIASED perspective.</p>

<p>if the chinese police arrest INNOCENT & UNARMED ppl that is definitely wrong. </p>

<p>But if the “protesters” are beating up other innocent people just because they are chinese, that is called RACISM, and when it is also violent that is the worst!

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<p>While CNN’s coverage has been biased and sloppy to say the least, other media outlets such as the LA and NY Times have written about how Tibetans rioters have killed innocent ethnic Han civilians, as well as how PRC troops and police have beaten protesters who have been non-violent.</p>

<p>While a good portion of the coverage in the US has been biased (btw, it not really racism since the Tibetans and Han Chinese are both Asian), it pales in comparison to the bias shown China by the PRC-controlled media.</p>

<p>Where’s the outrage about that?</p>

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Everyone has a reason to be ****ed. If that was the case, shouldn’t Native Americans be rioting and looting all across America too? I mean we did kind of exterminate their peoples and destroy their way of life and round them up and make them live on reservations once. And what about Chicanos living in Texas… America did basically just annex Texas from Mexico and then treat the people who were already living there like 2nd class citizens (see the vigilante reprisals and random executions of Mexican-Americans in the Gregorio Cortez affair). Everyone’s got a beef about something.

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<p>Not really the right analogy.</p>

<p>The Tibet situation is more akin to that of Latvia, Estonia, Georgia, Ukraine, etc. than that of native Americans in the US (which is more akin to that of the indigenous Taiwanese in Taiwan).</p>

<p>As for the American SW once being a part of the Mexican Empire – you have to remember that they both were former colonies of European powers that eventually gained their independence.</p>

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I think the reason why China insists on keeping Tibet, just like Taiwan, is part of China’s natural response to territorial integrity and national soveriegnty. Traditionally in Chinese history, those who broke off homeland territories were often harshly criticized and ridiculed, and China’s current government certainly does not want to leave that kind of reputation in Chinese history books for future generations. When Taiwan broke away from China in 1644, the Qing dynasty took years of planning to eventually re-unite with the island by force.

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<p>The problem w/ that argument is that the Qing Dynasty was a MANCHU dynasty ruling a MANCHU empire. You remember the Manchu? The same people that Han Chinese nationalists referred to as “barbaric, foreign usurpers” in order to justify their [often violent] uprising last century.</p>

<p>Up until the last Han Chinese Dynasty (Ming), Tibet was NEVER included as part of China in imperial maps (neither was Taiwan, btw).</p>

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There are 56 ethnic groups in China, and Zang people is a member of them. I am really shocked that in a program of National Geography said that Chinese invaded Tibet in 1953, as Tibet IS one part of China even before Qing Dynasty.

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<p>Totally FALSE.</p>

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The reason Tibetans protest is they don’t want to be part of communism and China. They want to get “divorced” from China. Tibet is their homeland. They don’t want Han Chinese to be there because Han Chinese moved over there by force but didn’t bring prosperity and freedom to Tibet. Instead it brings dictatorship, oppression, and death.

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<p>Same reason why the Mongolians (in Mongolia) aren’t exactly eager to become a part of the PRC again.</p>

<p>And while I wouldn’t paint all or even the majority of Han Chinese as blind, reactive ubernationalists - unfortunately, due to the propaganda put forth by the PRC (which has stoked nationalism as a means of gaining support for their rule - much like Putin has done w/ Russia and Bush/Cheney to a lesser extent has done here in the US), attitudes/actions like this have become more and more common.</p>

<p>**April 17, 2008
Chinese Student in U.S. Is Caught in Confrontation
By SHAILA DEWAN</p>

<p>DURHAM, N.C. —</p>

<p>Ms. Wang, who had friends on both sides, tried to get the two groups to talk, participants said. She began traversing what she called “the middle ground,” asking the groups’ leaders to meet and making bargains. She said she agreed to write “Free Tibet, Save Tibet” on one student’s back only if he would speak with pro-Chinese demonstrators. She pleaded and lectured. In one photo, she is walking toward a phalanx of Chinese flags and banners, her arms overhead in a “timeout” T.</p>

<p>The next day, a photo appeared on an Internet forum for Chinese students with a photo of Ms. Wang and the words “traitor to your country” emblazoned in Chinese across her forehead. Ms. Wang’s Chinese name, identification number and contact information were posted, along with directions to her parents’ apartment in Qingdao, a Chinese port city. </p>

<p>Salted with ugly rumors and manipulated photographs, the story of the young woman who was said to have taken sides with Tibet spread through China’s most popular Web sites, at each stop generating hundreds or thousands of raging, derogatory posts, some even suggesting that Ms. Wang — a slight, rosy 20-year-old — be burned in oil. Someone posted a photo of what was purported to be a bucket of feces emptied on the doorstep of her parents, who had gone into hiding. </p>

<p>“If you return to China, your dead corpse will be chopped into 10,000 pieces,” one person wrote in an e-mail message to Ms. Wang. “Call the human flesh search engines!” another threatened, using an Internet phrase that implies physical, as opposed to virtual, action.</p>

<p>In an interview Wednesday, Ms. Wang said she had been needlessly vilified.
“If traitors are people who want to harm China, then I’m not part of it,” she said. “Those people who attack me so severely were the ones who hurt China’s image even more.”**</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/us/17student.html?_r=1&ref=asia&oref=slogin[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/us/17student.html?_r=1&ref=asia&oref=slogin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Even on American sites (such as the WashPost.com or LATimes.com), such sentiments have come to the forefront.</p>