<p>“Because look for an admissions decision shortly usually and very sadly seems to mean a no is coming.”</p>
<p>A) that wasn’t the wording quoted… And B) Since when? Most schools use that wording on their admissions statuses. My son heard nothing but that for what seemed like forever from USC… until his packet arrived.</p>
<p>I guess that’s true at schools like USC and NYU who notify everyone at the same time but not so much for those with rolling admissions. Anyway, it sounds like they don’t need anything else right now and of course they do need an audition for admission don’t they?</p>
<p>truedat, Actor12, they do claim to require auditions. Which is why “waitlist” didn’t seem to characterize it for me. </p>
<p>What a terrible conundrum! They deserve a talking to!</p>
<p>I agree-- if this is a rejection of the prescreen (and it likely is) I think it’s inexcusably poorly worded.</p>
<p>Based on the other prescreenings that tripsounds did pass and knowing (straight from Dr. Schroeder’s mouth when my son applied) that NYU’s jazz program has a particularly low yield (due to not giving much merit money) and therefore accepts a higher percentage than comparable programs, it seems very strange to me that trip sounds would have not passed the NYU prescreen. And given that they lost his original prescreen, it seems like a red tape glitch to me. I also know that NYU has a lot of that. </p>
<p>I hope we get to hear the answer!</p>
<p>I’m not sure I made my thoughts clear with my ‘waitlist’ comment. Maybe I did. </p>
<p>I didn’t mean to say that I thought this was a Waitlist letter in the strictest sense of the word. Not in the traditional sense used by most schools. I don’t believe the recipients are supposed to think ‘waitlist’ when they get it. But, after reading both threads, I have started to wonder if maybe the NYU folks have decided to keep the recipients of those letters in their ‘reserves,’ just in case they have more spots to fill. </p>
<p>It did sound to me, at first, to be a clerical error. But if that’s the case, why wouldn’t they just answer all the derned phone calls or emails and tell these people yea or nay already? If they lost the file, why not tell the kids that they lost the file? Though I support and encourage such phone calls and emails, they have to be annoying to the office that’s receiving them!</p>
<p>And why are there nuanced differences in the letters that people have received? They sound like form letters, not personal letters. Somebody clearly composed said letter and input it into the computer as an option to send. It’s not like a human being sat down and accidentally wrote something vague and nebulous.</p>
<p>It just seems like there’s something more purposeful at hand – otherwise, they would answer the simple question: have I been accepted or declined?</p>
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<p>My own kids have had similar experiences. But those circumstances are different – those kids KNOW where they stand and what to expect. The kids who are getting these letters have no idea what is intended.</p>
<p>I’m not saying that there’s not some wink-winking going on in college auditions – just that even when there IS wink-winking, everybody pretty much still goes through the motions. And for good reasons. The kids who are told it’s just a formality KNOW it – they aren’t left in the dark like these kids were.</p>
<p>It’s next to impossible that the letters mean, “Your prescreen was so good that you won’t need to audition.” If that were the case, the kids would already know their status with relative certainty, because the people making those decisions would have contacted them directly. </p>
<p>And it’s unlikely that the letters mean, “You’ve been declined.” If these people have been declined, why, in all those phone calls and emails, wouldn’t NYU just spill the beans and tell them they’ve been declined?</p>
<p>That is why the concept ‘waitlist’ comes to mind. These kids have been put into limbo. Could that possibly be intentional on the school’s part??</p>
<p>Does anyone know what the actual NYU pre-screening rejection letter reads? My daughter passed the Julliard pre-screening and the email was very clear. I assumed the rejection letters would be just as clear, with good purpose … so that applicants can go forward in whatever direction has opened up to them and universities can focus on auditions without overloading on unnessessary administratiave phone calls and emails that vague letters will bring about. |But maybe not. If anyone has the wording of a NYU Steinhardt pre-screening rejection letter that is different than the one discussed here, I would love to read it.</p>
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<p>Welcome to NYU! So many kids from my son’s music program apply there, and we’ve heard clerical error/red tape/audition-scheduling problems that you honestly would not believe. The one mom whose son’s prescreen was lost took an endless number of phone calls finally leading to Dr. Schroeder to verify that it was indeed lost. (The student was ultimately accepted.) Unfortunately it’s mostly students who answer those calls and emails.</p>
<p>On the face of it, it does seem most likely that the email in question is in fact the prescreen denial letter - albeit worded very strangely. But knowing that NYU errs on the side of auditioning and admitting more musicians (again, due to the low yield) and knowing that tripsounds is auditioning at Oberlin and Thornton among other places (yes, yes, I know… sometimes prescreen results are very random and nonsensical, but not so much with NYU, which auditions 2 or 3 times the number that Thornton does!)… it almost sounds to me as if they didn’t want to dig around for his second prescreen anymore, after the first was lost. And remember, he applied EDII, and the letter said he’ll hear in April! Already a clerical error.</p>
<p>Anyway, no reason to keep guessing I suppose. </p>
<p>I just want to know!</p>
<p>^Hahhaaha! ME TOO! I want to know! I’m so caught up in the unfairness of it all. I want to march right over to that school and give them a piece of my mind, lol!</p>
<p>So I got an email this morning from Dr. Gabriel Alegria stating that my pre-screening was indeed rejected…how this happened I have no idea, but good riddance. It’s well known that NYU’s program is not the most competitive, and I passed the pre-screenings for every other school to which I applied. Today was my audition at Thornton and it went really well…so whatever!</p>
<p>^Hmmm. Skeptical me. I’m suspicious. As opposed to confessing, “We lost your prescreen a second time?” It’s just odd, isn’t it? I guess sometimes these thongs happen. </p>
<p>Well, thanks for letting us know, tripsounds, and good luck in the rest of your auditions!</p>
<p>Tripsounds…sometimes things work out for the best. Good Luck with Thorton and Oberlin.
I am not a fan of NYU…my daughter went there for a year (to the Tisch School for the Arts) and left. My son ended up crossing it off his list due to frustration with the administration and his inability to get somebody who was not a work-study student on the phone.</p>
<p>I think you’ll do just fine, trip sounds! The whole thing is still fishy to me as well. I don’t know your stats, but perhaps it was a general admittance issue - maybe you’re one of those musicians who spent all their time practicing and had just “ballpark” stats? And because you were EDII, they ran your app through the academic side of admission FIRST, without a good result? I believe in regular decision it works the opposite. Who knows. Like I said, you’re gonna do just fine and who needs that red tape Bermuda triangle anyway?</p>
<p>The more I learn about NYU, the less impressed I am. Tripsounds, it was ridiculous that you were put through that Kafkaesque experience. Best of luck with your other auditions.</p>
<p>Cheers to your other prescreens and your good feeling about your most recent audition, Tripsounds. I think the universe may have been protecting you from a less-than-fit program and expense ;)</p>
<p>^A very good point. I think so, too! :)</p>
<p>tripsounds - my son auditioned last year at NYU (jazz) and really thought he would end up there at the beginning of the audition process but in the end Thornton won out mainly due to the personalized attention he felt during the entire process. He enjoys all his classes and professors. I am so happy for you that your audition went well - it is a wonderful place to study music. Hope to have you onboard next fall! (btw…the University is incredible as well - the whole experience has felt very personal for a good size school).</p>
<p>Tripsounds, I am glad for you, it sounds like you came out ahead in the end, and that rocks. Like I wrote before, I went to NYU in the dark ages (ya know, when cell phones were these things you carried around in a bag the size of a laptop bag, the internet was still the realm of military and geeks, and pay phones actually were used), and it was the same thing, I often wonder if Terry Gilliam got the idea for the movie “Brazil” from talking to NYU students. From what I hear from others, many of them NYU alumni themselves, with their own kids applying, that NYU has gone up in the world since we were there, now sees itself as an elite school, but still has a third world bureaucratic structure, which as I wrote in other posts doesn’t surprise me.</p>
<p>I have recent experience with NYU, USC and GWU as my three kids are attending or have just graduated from these schools. I am also an alum of NYU Stern. We have had very positive experiences with NYU and have always gotten quick and polite responses to any questions we have had. I also had a pleasant experience there “back in the day.” It is at USC where we have run into this sort of bureaucratic run-around. So all I’m saying is this can happen at any school. I’m sad to hear it happened to the op, but happy he has other wonderful choices.</p>