<p>I have this schoolmate who was admitted to Cornell Early Acceptance. Supposedly this program allows Cornell to tell this RD student that you are admitted early and hope you come. But her admission is stirring up some discontent in my school because of the means she used to get into her colleges. Here are her stats: </p>
<p>SAT: 1560/2400
IB: 2 IB standard level courses
Ranking: top 50%
Ethnicity: Asian
ECs: Member of varsity basketball team; president of a charity club; members of various other clubs; Student government helper
Hook: not any that i can think of;
Remarks: She recently transfered to the English section in Junior year. Our school separates into ____ Section and English section </p>
<p>The stats are not deflated or inflated in anyway and as a friend, i can say that the stats reflects her quite well. </p>
<p>She was also admitted to BU and Northwestern (EA). She applied for Columbia ED but the school said that her 1st SATs were too low to be considered and she gave up on that school, saying that the school was too expensive. Then, Columbia emailed her long after the ED and RD dateline and inquired on her SAT scores. She sent them (taken 2nd time) and the decision is still pending. </p>
<p>Here comes the interesting part; she wrote a 1st draft of her admission essay and sent them to this college application agency. She then sent them stuff that was required from the school, like transcripts, and then she no longer saw any part of her application. I heard that the recs was also written by this "agency". All of the application was handled by this college application agency. She did not even recognize/know the essay questions of the northwestern supplement. </p>
<p>So, is this like a violation of the contract the student have with common app and colleges? All the student did was to send transcripts and write a first draft of her essay, which she never again set eyes upon it. I can definitely see this situation as problematic because more people would use these agencies instead of really working out their applications next app season.</p>
<p>Well, you don't know all the facts. Keep that in mind. It sounds as though you question the application process. It also sounds as though you think this appication agency wrote the student's recommendation letters. (If so, that is fraud.) I don't think you have the full story. Anyway, here is what I think:</p>
<p>I feel sorry for this poor girl because it sounds as though her classmates are spreading rumours about her college application ethics. You do not know the whole story and, aside from low-ish SATs which could be due to a language interference, she might be a student with a lot to contribute to the schools at which she has been accepted.</p>
<p>I think that there's far more to the story than you are privy to. I also think that you and your classmates would be better off attending to your own applications and not to the applications of the girl whom you mentioned. </p>
<p>I truly doubt if anyone could get into the colleges that you mention after doing the kind of fraud that you seem to think that your friend did.</p>
<p>as they say " what goes around comes around", i have seen prople cheat their way to the top but they fall pretty hard! Relax, and if you are her "friend" then you should have maybe kept this to yourself. In all honesty, however, this college process can turn friends into rivals/enemies, it really does suck. I feel sorry for the poor girl as well, considering the fact that she trusted you with her info. But oh well. Good Luck with college!</p>
<p>Unfortunate side effect of how needlessly competitive admissions has to be. It doesn't matter where a person goes to college, but what he or she does in college.</p>
<p>Warn her that, if the college found out there was any cheating, it could rescind the acceptance, expel her from the school, or revoke the degree if found after she graduated.</p>
<p>well.. most of the stats and app process we questioned her and she provided the info.. </p>
<p>so by the reaction above, what she has done is considered fraud? I didn't really think it was that serious because a few at my school are doing so.. but i guess doing so at the ivy-level is considered pretty serious huh..</p>
<p>I am pretty sure there will be plenty more doing so next year if this spreads out..</p>
<p>You can apply ED & EA (with the exception of HY& S which have SCEA and georgetown where your cannot apply EA and ED at another school).</p>
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<p>Sooooo......... They are well within their right to request missing information.</p>
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<p>From the points presenting in your postings, you are listening to a lot of misinformation. Worse, you are gossiping with out knowing the facts (as a simple search on the websites of the schools in question would have made you challenge the veracity of these statements) and this doesn't make you look like the sharpest crayon in the box.</p>
<p>I hope the approach you took in posting this question was not the approach you took regarding your own applicatons or you could be in for some disappointments.</p>
<pre><code>What I meant by "fraud" actually relates to the "agency," not your friend; if someone is writing letters of recommendation and signing another person's name to them and then sending those letters to colleges, then that is fraud.
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<p>This is what I hate about the college admissions process-- the whole "judging" people of whether they are worthy for a college.</p>
<p>STOP doing this! Colleges pick people they want. Peers of the person who gets admitted do not. Get over yourself. Your "friend" has gotten in on her own merit, even if you do not think she is "worthy".</p>
<p>i was wondering about how she could apply to so many schools early.. she said she applied to 3 or 4 schools early.. I only know of columbia, NYU and northwestern. the only thing that she said that she applied for ED was columbia and the rest was EA.. </p>
<p>and she said that she got a email saying she was admitted.. she didnt quite believe it and even sent an email back asking about the email she received.. they replied saying she got in.. i didnt apply to cornell but i do not think the reply date is so early right.. </p>
<p>in all, i can just say that the admission process is a huge enigma...</p>
<p>the recommendations are probably written by people connected to the agency probably.. </p>
<p>one more question: do college actually condone what she did? i heard that many students in a country employs this type of service? and they get in because the school wants the agency to introduce more people..</p>
<p>Help me out here. By "recommendations," do you mean the letters that colleges ask for from teachers, coaches or others who know the applicant?</p>
<p>Are you saying that your friend's letters were not written by people who knew her, such as her teachers, principal, counselor, pastor, and such, but were
written by the agency? </p>
<p>Do you not find that more than a little unlikely?</p>