<p>You can quote things by using [ quote] insert quote [ / quote] just without all the spaces :] Like so:
^I agree, but I feel that in an ideal situation, she would have been confronted in a way where she won’t feel compelled to cheat/lie again. It is probable that OP did was a temporary solution.</p>
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<p>Haha if Draconian measures were taken, i.e. ALL of her apps were pulled, then I bet she wouldn’t feel compelled to cheat again…</p>
<p>Nice quoting! 
Ouch, harsh measures! Lol yes, it would work, but it wouldn’t be pretty! I would feel so bad for her :<</p>
<p>@Girrafezs<br>
She told some people she was deferred from Yale University after telling people she was deferred from Early Decision and accepted to Notre Dame University. People at my school and in this small middle of nowhere hicktown Texas do not even know where Yale is located, how would they know about its Single Choice policy. Not even the counselor knew!! That’s the kind of the people we are dealing with here. Only kaekae and I said “hey wait a minute, if Yale is SCEA then how can she apply to those two other places early??” And there’s just not enough people to “tell” or in other words, people do not care about college admissions over here except for a few people in the top 5 applying across the United States. kaekae and I are finished with this situation; she got what she deserved and thats it. There is no reason to perpetuate this by proclaiming our triumph among our peers and faculty.</p>
<p>^do you know if rice and notre dame were contacted? just wondering again.</p>
<p>Why shouldn’t you tell people about this? That way, this mistake won’t be made again.</p>
<p>How are you going to deter people from cheating by not letting anyone know this even happened? You aren’t changing a whole lot if all you do is get one app recalled. It doesn’t matter if you don’t think people care, you still should.</p>
<p>Basically, I think you are copping out, for lack of a better term without using language. Your language denotes that you take pride in this, that you feel you are really making a difference. Well, go out there and really make a difference; show what happens when people violate policies like this. Otherwise you haven’t really done anything to help stop this from happening again.</p>
<p>Most of all, I think you should be honest with this girl. Isn’t this what all of this was about? Honesty and integrity? Follow your ideals and tell her the truth.</p>
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You are right. We are now obligated to take advantage of this situation to change the world in the largest possible way. We will tell everyone. Sorry it took this many posts for us to acquiesce.
Again, thank you for bestowing upon us your wisdom.</p>
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<p>This thread has 4,550 views. By describing what can happen when a student violates SCEA policies, OP has probably already made a difference by posting on this website.</p>
<p>Bingo. Call it the Michael Vick or Martha Stewart effect. Why do prosecutors vigorously go after celebs? Because they are loud and visible. Who cares of your co-worker’s uncle’s neighbor got prosecuted for insider trading? But if it’s Martha?!? Now that sends a message.</p>
<p>Bay raises a good point about the number of views on this thread and the cautionary tale it tells. Every year on CC there are several threads in which student posters say they know someone who sought simultaneous SCEA acceptances from Yale and Stanford, or an SCEA acceptance from Yale along with an EA acceptance from MIT, or an SCEA acceptances from Yale along with an EA and/or ED acceptance from another school. Maybe the poster even claims to have done it him/herself. Any one of these scenarios is a breach of the Yale SCEA agreement. And in all of these threads, the posters are wondering if there is any way these students will be caught, and what will happen if they are. </p>
<p>This thread provides the answer. All it takes is one person – it could be a peer, a parent, the GC, or even someone reading these boards – who is able to put together the pieces and contact the admissions office.</p>
<p>I can easily argue that the OP has done a disservice. Now, if someone does want to risk violating SCEA and they read this thread, they know to shut their mouths.</p>
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<p>No one said that. </p>
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<p>Not really. You just should provide more argumentation than a simple quote. You should explain why the idea of a categorical imperative works in this situation, which actually just takes us back to the discussion itself.</p>
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<p>Morality can apply to everyone, but when morality depends on the effect of an action on others, then the magnitude of that effect is important. </p>
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<p>That would be better. They would not put others in the awkward position of having to do the right thing, and other honest applicants would not become cynical about the process, because they would not know that they were competing with a cheater.</p>
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<p>I explain this in a previous post. Really explicitly, actually. </p>
<p>And that was said. See: “Quoting a philosopher doesn’t mean the given idea makes an ounce of sense at all.” You’re not saying ANYTHING constructive about the idea here, your only gripe is with the use of a philosopher’s idea.</p>
<p>It seems like you’re not reading very carefully.</p>
<p>“giraffezs wrote: Most of all, I think you should be honest with this girl. Isn’t this what all of this was about? Honesty and integrity? Follow your ideals and tell her the truth”</p>
<p>If someone I know is cheating on her taxes, should I tell IRS?
If I tell IRS, do I have to tell her that I am contacting IRS?</p>
<p>“That would be better. They would not put others in the awkward position of having to do the right thing”</p>
<p>This perhaps is true. But in terms of talking about keeping integrity, honest, etc. in the system and prevent people from undermining the process, then this isn’t any better.</p>
<p>“and other honest applicants would not become cynical about the process, because they would not know that they were competing with a cheater.”</p>
<p>One would have to be unbelievably naive to think that, because people aren’t making their cheating public, one isn’t competing with cheaters.</p>
<p>"If someone I know is cheating on her taxes, should I tell IRS?
If I tell IRS, do I have to tell her that I am contacting IRS? "</p>
<p>The OP and his buddy are openly lying to this girl, pretending as if they have played no part in this when obviously they have. By definition, this is dishonesty. They’ve been claiming they’ve done this all in the name of integrity, honor, etc. and yet they aren’t being honest themselves.</p>
<p>Depending on the situation, your example may or may not have similar issues.</p>
<p>The OP and his buddy did the right thing. They have no obligation to the girl who cheated.</p>
<p>I commend them for taking the initiative.</p>
<p>They have an obligation to the beliefs they claim motivated them.</p>
<p>^lol pwned…</p>