Visual Art Colleges and Programs

<p>RainingAgain, maybe 90+% of the kids that apply to SCAD submit portfolios for undergrad admissions; however, the point is that it isn't required! Frankly, I would like them to REQUIRE something. Maybe it doesn't have to be 2-15 pieces; however, they should require some samples of work for an art school! I also am not picking on SCAD. I feel the same way for Cincinnati and other schools as well, which have strong art programs.</p>

<p>Also, maybe having a top notch GPA and SATs are more indicative for certain types of majors such as design. However, why not require a few pieces in order to see if the person has some reasonable degree of talent and training? Again, I am not asking that 50% of the admission decision be portfolio based for all majors. However, I do believe that submiting a portfolio would result in more of a holistic look at the prospective student and eliminate those without the demonstrated talent.</p>

<p>Taxguy, I went to the PIXAR website to see if there had been a change since my s showed me the list of schools he wanted to look into. I didn't remember anything about PIXAR saying they INTERVIEWED at those schools; they just knew of them having CG or animation programs. I thought the site's information may have changed (due to your comment), but it hasn't. See below:</p>

<p>From PIXAR's FAQ link:</p>

<p>""We have listed schools that offer courses in animation but please know that this is simply a list. If your school is not on our list, this does not mean that you are unqualified to apply to Pixar.</p>

<p>We look at your work first, typically in the form of a videotaped reel. If the reel shows mastery or great potential in the area(s) of animation, lighting, modeling, or writing shaders, we then look at the resume to see your background and experience. </p>

<p>In choosing an animation related school, look for one that focuses on traditional skills, drawing, painting, sculpture, cinematography. Ask the school how they will help you build an effective portfolio of your work: not merely a collection of your assignments, but a well developed presentation of your unique point of view, and your technical skills. Also ask the school how well integrated their theatre and film departments are with their 2D and 3D art departments. </p>

<p>Learn enough about computer graphics to know how they work in general. Look for a school that has not substituted electronic arts for traditional (or vice versa). Ask them about how they balance the two. Avoid just learning packages of software. Today’s packages will be replaced several times during your school career, and many studios use proprietary software that you cannot learn in school anyway. Learn enough to know you can learn it, but concentrate on the more expressive traditional skills.""</p>

<p>I think the third and fourth paragraphs are particularly interesting to read. Just trying to clarify so that kids that read your post don't misunderstand. Or maybe I am missed the link on PIXAR's website where you found the information. If so, could you share it with us?</p>

<p>KandKsmom, when we looked over Pratt, Pratt noted that they and certain other schools were on Pixar's recommended list. Pixar, at that time, did have a list of schools where they conduct interviews. There site seems to have been changed to exclude this list. However, I would bet "dollars to donuts" that they don't regularly recruit at Yale as much as with Pratt, UCLA and other major art schools. It could be because of the size of the program, as you so sagely suggested.</p>

<p>Kandksmom, after some more searching, here is the list noted on Pixar's site in the job section, found in the subsection of the FAQ noting " How do I get started in a career in computer graphics/animation?" You will note that YALE isn't mentioned.</p>

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<p>The following is a list of colleges and schools offering courses in animation or technical direction. Pixar does not necessarily endorse any of these schools. The list is simply a resource for those interested in exploring the world of technical direction and animation.</p>

<p>COMPUTER GRAPHICS (Technical Direction)
Art Institute of Chicago
Brown University
California Institute of Technology
California State University, Irvine
Carnegie-Mellon University
Cornell University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
New York Institute of Technology
Princeton University
Stanford University
Texas A&M
University of California at Berkeley
University of California at Davis
University of North Carolina
University of Pennsylvania
University of Southern California
University of Utah
University of Washington</p>

<p>ANIMATION
Academy of Art University
Art Center College of Design
Art Institute of Chicago
California Institute of the Arts (CalArts)
New York University
Parsons School of Design
Pratt Institute
Ringling School of Art and Design
Rhode Island School of Design
Rochester Institute of Technology
San Francisco State University
Savannah College of Art and Design
School of Communication Arts
School of Visual Arts
Sheridan College
UCLA
University of Southern California
Vancouver Film School
Vancouver Institute of Media Arts</p>

<p>Yes, that is the list we saw earlier. It is a diverse list, isn't it? I wonder how many other schools have petitioned to have their name put on there so impressionable teens see it?! Kind of like having your school in the Princeton Review or USNews books, only better! </p>

<p>Since there are a few of us on here right now, I saw a question about Kutztown University earlier. We are curious about it now, too. Taxguy, did you and your d learn anything about it?</p>

<p>My wife is from Pennsylvania. Kunztown has a strong reputation for art.It just isn't near anything that I know of. My daughter just wasn't interested in seeing it;thus, I know little about it other than hearsay.</p>

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<p>I plan to go into photography or film. I submitted a photography portfolio to NYU and got in. I'm just worried because NYU is not known for their photography. Should I go to RIT instead? (i got in with a 6k/year scholarship). NYU is much more prestigious though. I dont know, any other photographers on here?</p>

<p>For photography, RIT is VERY well known and is considered top notch.. Don't underestimate it. However, with that said, RIT has a very different environment and culture than that of NYU,which is a city school. You REALLY need to visit each school and check it out.</p>

<p>Marla,</p>

<p>You're looking at maybe $80000 difference in cash outlay over 4 years, not to mention, that at least on a technical photography basis, RIT is way better than NYU.</p>

<p>But NYU is cool, prestigious, and right in the thick of NYC.</p>

<p>it's a question of how valuable those assets are.</p>

<p>Having been raised in Central NY about 1.5 hrs from RIT, I know of a few graduates from the RIT photography program. All are working in field, and one is doing very well working out of Chicago- last I knew he did photography for food magazines and merchandise catalogs. </p>

<p>In my mind, RIT is the premier photography school, but I have not really ever heard of others or needed to research that major, my daughter prefers Ill. & GD at this point. I agree with Taxguy though, the two environments could not be more different. If you want the pulse of living in the city, then you may be bored at RIT, which is a singular campus in the suburbs of Rochsester.</p>

<p>Have you considered RIT for undergrad, then banking the money saved for Graduate school in NYC? That would give you the best of both worlds, and also put you in the heart of the city at the time you will be needed to make most of those connections for employment and internships.</p>

<p>I don't know much about their photography program, but from what I heard, it's amazing at RIT. But I can say some things about the school in general. I visited there last week and was absolutely impressed with everything I saw. I still need to look at some other schools, but for now, RIT is at the top of my list. On the other hand, my sister went to NYU (not for art though) and absolutely loved it. It's really up to you. You definitely need to see both schools and decide which one is the best fit for you.</p>

<p>where are these ratings from? and where does mica fall?</p>

<p>Hi. My S got into both NYU and RIT for film. RIT gave substantial scholarship, NYU gave none. Really can't decide what to do. Tisch has the prestige. But there will be $120k difference over 4 years and S isn't sure about being in the City. He's really interested in animation and RIT is supposed to have a good program. Anyone have an opinion?</p>

<p>I can't speak to the animation program, but my son is a freshman illustration major at RIT. If you have questions about the school in general, what it's like to live and study there, etc., I'll be happy to answer what I can.</p>

<p>Thanks jdsmom, I do have some concerns about the RIT culture since I've been reading such negative things. Can you tell me if its as anti-social as it sounds. Since your son is an illustration major, he'll be like mine - in the arts - so that might make a little difference. Also, how intense are the quarters? We're going next weekend for accepted students day. Can't wait to find out more about it. When we visited over the summer we were so impressed with the technology, but there were very few kids around.</p>

<p>My DD is a 2nd yr Graphic Design student at RIT. She's home this weekend so maybe I can get her to post later on (she's out now). NYU and RIT will have entirely different environments, socially. She's feeling burnt out now so you may hear that. At the very last minute, she joined a group of friends and went to FL over spring break (between 2nd & 3rd qtrs) - so she doesn't really feel like she got a break. You know, the sit on the sofa, hang out, catch up on sleep, type of break. Now she's full into 3rd qtr and feels she needs a break. The quarters move very quickly so you have to be ok with that pace. Kids that like it appreciate the fact that you can take more classes (and be exposed to more things) in RIT's system but you don't get time to relax like in a typical semester system. This can present a problem when sick, or simply sick of school. But RIT did give my DD some time (maybe a qtr) to make up work when she was out sick with mono so the faculty is willing to work with students.</p>

<p>Socially, there are all kinds of kids. The trick is finding the group that you're comfortable with. My DD didn't fit in with the really "artsy" kids that she lived with freshman yr nor does she play video games. Nice kids but very different socially. My DD and a friend from her dorm (whom she met before classes even began) moved to an on campus apt 2nd yr and seem happier. They were surrounded by other friends, in nearby apts. Getting an apt wasn't as difficult as some people say. All her friends that wanted to move out of the dorms did so. </p>

<p>Orientation is right before classes start and a good way to find friends. With facebook, it's very easy to stay in touch. She also seems to have made many friends through her classes and her on campus job. Her bf is an engineering major and an athelete at RIT and he has tons of friends, too. In general, I think the Design school kids are seemingly friendlier - more open and approachable. My DD was in a learning community 1st yr - you take 3 classes, I think, together every qtr and so you develop close ties. She's still friendly with many of those kids. The learning community was optional and I'm glad she agreed to it when approached.</p>

<p>Not sure I'd say RIT is cliquey but you will find "groups" of similar kids that share interests. I think that makes sense. The groups don't seem exclusionary. I know my DD's friends are always excited about meeting new kids and adding to their friends. My DD has no interest in staying in her room playing video games but for those kids that do, they find many others to hang out with. She has friends that on several different sports teams at RIT and there are many others who play on intramural teams. She doesn't do that but goes to watch sometimes. </p>

<p>Although a biggish school, many commute so of the ones living on campus, you have "techies" who aren't super social or not in the ways she is - so that limits who you hang out with. But she hasn't had trouble making friends or finding people to do things with. Kind of like HS. She goes with friends to sporting events, the beautiful gym (even takes classes every qtr), goes into Rochester occasionally, goes on trips (Toronto, Niagara Falls, FL) at least once a qtr. She's already talking about going to some of the state parks in the area. Having a car helps and parking is not a problem (and it's free even for freshman). There are many restaurants and stores (mall) nearby. Some kids go off skiing, etc. </p>

<p>I think the weather is more depressing socially than the type of kids. It's overcast, gloomy even, and windy much of the year and the kids can't let that get to them. I find that to be true here, as well, with winter being a time when it's easier to stay put inside. When my DD lived in the dorms she said too many kids sit around and complain how lousy the weather is or they're so bored but they don't make the effort to go out and do stuff. So - is your kid the type to go do something or sit around and complain? IF it's the latter, don't go to RIT. My DD definitely has fun but it's not a party school atmosphere. The campus is dry and security is everywhere. That's not to say parties don't go on. They do. I"ve driven through the apts and there are always parties - they're just smaller and more contained. You won't see kids walking, or stumbling, around campus with open beer cups in their hands (like on other campuses). But my DD has been to her share of parties and clubs. Kids hang out in their dorm rooms and may have a few beers while watching a ball game or movies, etc.</p>

<p>There are also fraternities and sororities on campus that are very social. I don't mean in the over the top drinking that people think of. My DD considered pledging a couple sororities but she just couldn't find the time to do all the stuff they do - some public service work and many social activities. It would be hard to keep up with their schedule. Some of her closest friends are in sororities and love them. I think the fraternities are the same. If interested in this, check out the on campus fraternity/sorority houses. They are absolutely gorgeous.</p>

<p>My son is very people-oriented, and he's lucky that he's fallen in with about a dozen kids on his dorm floor who have become a close-knit group of friends. They include kids majoring in the arts, but also in computer science and other disciplines. It sounds like they really look out for each other - kids who have cars give rides to kids who don't, they take care of each other when they get sick, etc. I don't know how typical this is of the RIT experience, but it tells me not ALL students there stay shut up in their rooms playing computer games. I think the campus probably offers fewer entertainment options than a typical school of that size, but this group doesn't seem to care. They go to hockey games (which are very popular), they play Manhunt and other tag-like games outdoors when weather permits, they watch movies, they hang out, and from what I hear they seem content. This group includes both girls and guys, though (since it's RIT, afer all) there are more guys. </p>

<p>The quarter system really IS intense. I'm taken aback at how much work these kids have to do in order to meet teachers' expectations. Apparently, the last week of each quarter they barely sleep. Or, at least, that's how it is for my son and his friends. I'm sure some kids organize their time better. But my son (who has never been an overachiever) is happy, he likes most of his classes and loves some of them, he says he's learning a lot, and his grades are respectable.</p>

<p>Thanks for your replies. Looking forward to next week. It definitely sounds like a good option.</p>

<p>You guys gave Pixar's list of schools for computer animation/graphic design, but are tehre any official rankings on this matter? Is there any sort of consensus on which programs are best in computer animation?</p>