<p>I haven't decided if I want to stay on the waitlist. I got into harvard and penn huntsman so I would sort of feel ridiculous doing it but at the same time I really like princeton. .....</p>
<p>really confused right now.</p>
<p>It is a virtual second chance IF they admit 75-100 students. To find the real chances,you would have to take the admission rate of the last couple of years and then multiply that by the chance of waitlisters geting in.</p>
<p>What I am wondering gianievve, is how we update ourselves in the views of the admissions committee:</p>
<p>Much has happened in the past 3 months. I have a teacher that could explain the end of on event (including 4 MAJOR awards that I recieved last week for leadership, etc.), and my major involvement in a new event.</p>
<p>I am thinking that instead of simply informing the admissions committee of the awards and etc, having someone who could sing my praises might be better.</p>
<p>Plus, I do like the idea of having a short call from our school college counselor, maybe mention interest and awards, etc.</p>
<p>So, the first thing to do is send off a short letter, maybe a paragraph about the last 3 months, but mostly reenforcing my interest and that Princeton is my#1 school and I would make any availible effort if possible to attend (need to work on wording, I want it as strong as a non-binding "I will go if accepted" can be).</p>
<p>Lets talk and strategize here, and best of luck to all,
Nickleby</p>
<p>P.S. I just realized how that I should also mention again how interested (in better wording, of course) I am in the Woodrow Wilson school.</p>
<p>if you like pton take the waitlist... don't have any regrets. an acceptance is an acceptance, whether you get it ED, after a deferal, in RD, or after having been waitlisted.</p>
<p>exactly astrix! alita - if you still want to attend Princeton, then it's your right to stay on the waitlist.</p>
<p>Nickleby - I think your plan is sound. Since much has happened since you last submitted your application I think you should go ahead and let the college know. The best strategy to update imho would be:</p>
<p>*Additional Awards, Grade Improvement --> GC {short report}
*Strong Interest in Princeton + School's support --> GC {short call to regional admissions officer}
*Clear Reasons why Pton is for you + Interest --> YOU {email/call admissions officer}</p>
<p>y17k - just mention that you're applying for fall admission, are currently on the waitlist, Princeton is your first choice for X reasons, if admitted you would absolutely attend.</p>
<p>Personally, I think a letter like this is positive, but that je ne sais quoi is missing (that extra something)...</p>
<p>I think you really have to make it clear to them that you are serious about Pton. I don't think gimmicks are a good idea, but if Princeton is really your first choice, you need to stand out on the waitlist. Anyone with suggestions?</p>
<p>Does anyone know the exact number on the waitlist for the past few years?</p>
<p>I don't know about this whole unsolicited letter/phone call business. Are you guys sure the college won't just be annoyed by it? I mean, it seems sort of...lame...because I'm sure everyone on the waitlist is so excellent, etc, etc. Unless you like, won some national award, what's the point? I mean, if you're not more special than the average Princeton applicant, why pretend that you are?</p>
<p>"if you're not more special than the average Princeton applicant, why pretend that you are?"</p>
<p>b/c you want to get in. if you really aren't any more special, then... you won't get in. try your best (not saying lie, but i am saying try to put everything you do actually out there) and something might happen.</p>
<p>if you do nothing, what are the chances that anything will happen?</p>
<p>but i don't know that much. i haven't even received my decision yet. who knows what to do.</p>
<p>Well, everyone is in a similar group. What Princeton wants (we think), is students who are NOW at a slightly higher level, equal to their acceptees (their opinion, of course).</p>
<p>So, it is all about getting that leg up. Otherwise, when it comes down to letting in 100 people (lets hope and pray), there will be a number of students who stand out, instead of being random.</p>
<p>So, my plan as it stands, (thanks for the advice, gianievve)...</p>
<p>***Over the next couple of days, write a SHORT letter to Princeton expressing how remain my top choice, and how "honored" I would be to attend. Mention how even after my application was sent in, I continued to participate in my activities, and recieve good awards and grades.</p>
<p>***Have my guidance counselor CALL my regional rep (if anyone knows how to find them, I couldn't on the website). Reenforce my interest in Princeton. Perhaps a short memo as a written copy of the same (any ideas).</p>
<p>***Have a third teacher write a glowing reccomendation that includes 3 major school awards for leadership, career pride in an activity, and recieving a newly minted award for using those skills in the real world (I am really blowing any anonyminty if schoolmates check this post), in addition to being named an Academic-All-American by the National Forensic League (only one in the school, I keep on digging myself deeper into anti-anonyimity). Show my valuable position in our Theatre department (I just can't stop), and etc.</p>
<p>***Write a thank-you letter (if I can find his address) to my interviewer and mention how interested I am and that I am on the waitlist (who knows what good it could do)</p>
<p>This won't be too much, but I hope to build myself up while doing it all under the banners of <em>continued interest</em> and <em>updates</em>.</p>
<p>As always, suggestions are welcome,
Nickleby</p>
<p>P.S. (I was wondering if I should just mail in the envelope or if it is possible to have a small envelope like that done by registered mail, It could be horrible if it (and it is very small) was lost in the mail or at the school)</p>
<p>Common Data Set Link: <a href="http://registrar1.princeton.edu/data/common.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://registrar1.princeton.edu/data/common.cfm</a></p>
<p>2004
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List...........1045
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List....................719
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted.......................79
Total Class Size.............................................. .......1172
6.7 % of Class came from the wait list</p>
<p>2003
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List..........471
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List....................298
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted.......................27
Total Class Size.............................................. .......1176
2.3 % of Class came from the wait list</p>
<p>2002
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List...........NA
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List....................NA
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted.......................0
Total Class Size.............................................. .......1164
0 % of Class came from the wait list</p>
<p>2001
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List............NA
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List.....................0
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted.........................0
Total Class Size.............................................. .........1185
0 % of Class comes from the wait list</p>
<p>Look's Like they have started to use the Wait List in recent years.</p>
<p>Good Luck</p>
<p>I thought that it was 99, 79, 27 (or about that).</p>
<p>What IS important is that the consistancy of percentages taken off the final wait list has remained at 10%, even with a smaller list they took fewer people.</p>
<p>Sadley, with the class increase, they may have overcompensated. We can't tell how many will be on the list and if any will get off it this year. Not yet, at least, but thanks a ton for the data, richs.</p>
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<p>***Have a third teacher write a glowing reccomendation that includes 3 ...</p>
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<p>Didn't they say specifically NOT to do that?</p>
<p>I want to boost my chances, but I don't want them to get angry at me for disrespecting their rules.</p>
<p>I'm not exactly sure what they said, I don't know if anyone is. IF you have more specifics, PLEASE share them.</p>
<p>I think the way to do it would be to have the teacher write it only as an update over the past 3 months. That way, it wouldn't be like adding to the application, but like updating it.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, Mesiur East Egg, this is the only part of my "plan" that I am hesitant about. Thank you very much for your input, and I welcome more from others, as well as providing some of my own.</p>
<p>Those are early numbers. What happens is, after the initial round of acceptances through the waitlist, there is a second round even deeper into May and maybe even June. That's why the 79 last year became 99 and 27 in 2003 was 76 etc. etc.
I think last year, Princeton put A LOT more kids on the waitlist because they were unsure of how the shifting in the admissions policies at Stanford, Yale and Harvard would affect their matriculation rates. So to ensure that they would have a full class, they had like 1000 kids on the waitlist. This year, things are more sure so I would think "a few hundred kids" means 400-500 or so.</p>
<p>I would love it if it was 400-500 (even more amazing if the few corrleated correctly to 3 (couple is 2, some is 4 or more) and there were 300, but not likely).</p>
<p>I just got this off the Brown discussion board. It has a couple of great articles that have slightly changed my plan to a very short letter of interest now with the G.C. "stuff" and a longer letter of extreme interest and the perfect fit with the additional rec.</p>
<p>Check this out: <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/community/wait_listed/%5B/url%5D">http://www.livejournal.com/community/wait_listed/</a></p>
<p>If I was accepted Yale, should I screw Princeton waitlist?</p>
<p>What are the downsides to remaining on the list?</p>
<p>there are no downsides of remaining on the list. nothing happens if you remain on the list but if u think u would choose yale over pton anyways i personally wouldnt stay on the list because there are others on the waitlist that would love to attend princeton</p>
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<p>if i were you, i would.</p>
<p>There is an ethical component to this guys; I was waitlisted at Brown, but won't take it cuz I really wouldn't take it. (Wouldn't have applied, in retrospect.)</p>
<p>If you're not going to accept even if offered admission, then you should obviously just remove your name from the list. There's enough anxiety on this board already.</p>
<p>I got in Stanford EA and am a merit scholarship finalist at Duke...so I'm turning down the Princeton waitlist. Be happy! After my abysmal Princeton interview (where my interviewer said "Princeton is like a corporation") I decided it wasn't the best fit for me...so I wasn't that disappointed. I know all of you really, really want this and I wish the best of luck to you.</p>