@bballjones Schools don’t usually let you know how much they want and value you until they accept you. That is, unless you are a recruited athlete. The true test of whether you are valued or not is when you that admissions decision.
@bballjones The sentence you are referring to was NOT in the Wake Forest statement.
It was a statement of my feelings on the matter and solely my opinion. In fact, I’m angry he hasn’t already been fired. He was charged with a RICO violation in a Federal Bribery/Fraud investigation. That indicates to me they have enough evidence to convict him.
Good luck to your son!
CNN reported following-
During his hearing at a Boston federal court on Tuesday, Singer pleaded guilty to four charges and admitted the allegations were true.“All of these things, and many more things, I did,” Singer said. “I created a side door that would guarantee families would get in.”
Singer is the coordinator of all. I don’t think anyone on the list can continue to insist their innocence.
@wakedad My mistake. Totally understand, it certainly sounds like the guy deserves to be fired. @citymama9 We felt wanted by several institutions, before and since being accepted by them. I think some institutions have different philosophies and approaches to how they treat applicants and, in some ways, it reveals a portion of their institutional character.
Here’s the latest update from President Hatch regarding the Bribery scandal.
This message from Wake Forest University President Nathan Hatch was emailed to students, faculty and staff on March 13.
"Since my message to the campus community yesterday, I have received several emails expressing shock, disappointment and anger that Wake Forest volleyball coach Bill Ferguson was named in a federal indictment referred to by the U.S. Department of Justice as “Operation Varsity Blues.” The indictment alleges Ferguson accepted financial payments to influence the admission of a student that had previously been placed on the wait-list.
I am writing today to address some of the most frequent questions I have received and to make abundantly clear that Wake Forest is considered by the U.S. Department of Justice to be a victim of this fraud. In no way has it been suggested that the University was involved in the deceitful practices, nor were any employees, other than Ferguson, accused of wrongdoing.
As I stated yesterday, Wake Forest has cooperated fully with this investigation and will continue to cooperate with the appropriate authorities.
With this message, I wish to address the most common questions I have received:
Q: How are we supposed to make sense of this whole situation?
A: The Department of Justice considers Wake Forest and the other institutions named in the investigation to be the victims of fraud. The investigation into the corruption of the admissions processes at many well-known institutions centered on the actions of William Rick Singer and his Key Worldwide Foundation. These institutions were allegedly compromised by complicit coaches and others who worked with Singer for their own personal gain to influence the admission of the children of his clients. Unfortunately, Bill Ferguson is alleged to have been one of those coaches. On Tuesday morning, Wake Forest placed Ferguson on administrative leave and named Randi Smart interim coach, effective immediately.
The integrity of our admissions process is intrinsic to our mission, and we believe the integrity of intercollegiate athletic competition is essential to the development of student-athletes and the support of our broader community. Wake Forest is reviewing our practices related to admissions and athletics to ensure that we are in complete alignment with our values.
Q: Does this scandal suggest a bigger problem with Wake Forest’s admissions office?
A: No. The review completed to date by outside legal counsel underscores that Bill Ferguson acted independently and was the only person at Wake Forest with knowledge of, and involvement with, the alleged misconduct. No other university employees, including admissions officers or other athletics staff, have been implicated in the investigation. The widespread cheating on admissions exams reported in the indictment do not pertain to Wake Forest.
Q: How is the application process different for student-athletes and non-athlete students?
A: Only students who demonstrate their ability to succeed academically at Wake Forest are admitted. Student-athletes and non-athletes complete the standard application and supplemental materials, including essays, a counselor letter of recommendation, high school transcript, teacher letter of recommendation and class standing. The admissions office depends on coaches to evaluate applicants’ athletic abilities and the contributions they can make to a team.
Q: What is going to happen to the one Wake Forest student mentioned in the indictment who had been waitlisted prior to admission?
A: The student was admitted and is currently enrolled. We have no reason to believe the student was aware of the alleged financial transaction.
As I told our campus community yesterday, the alleged conduct is in direct conflict with the values and integrity of Wake Forest and its athletics program. I will continue to monitor this matter carefully and appreciate your support of Wake Forest.
President Nathan O. Hatch"
Wake was definitely a victim here. As for the student who was waitlisted and later admitted under this fraud should be expelled. She had to participate in the fraud in someway - Did she meet the coach? Attend preseason practice? My understanding is that the students admitted under the ruse of being an athlete had to be involved with the "team for at least the first year according to the indictment. Hopefully this scandal will level the playing field somewhat but it remains totally acceptable for wealthy families to donate large sums of money for a quid pro admission. Kids - welcome to the real world
@bballjones - institutional character? How much do you really know about Wake? Seems like you’re holding some kind of a grudge based on your jumping to conclusions about the official statement re: volleyball coach. Maybe another school would be a better choice.
@cltrising No grudge at all. I think very highly of WFU. Comment had nothing to do with the current situation with the volleyball coach at all. Wake admissions office seems to be a victim like several other admissions offices. You might want to reread my comments. Comments were about our experience with Wake during the entire application process when compared with other comparable institutions my son applied too.
@bballjones - My experience with Wake during the entire admission process has been excellent. I visited the campus for two days last October at which time I interviewed. I found the majority of students and administrators to be very helpful and willing to provide a realistic view of the school as compared to some schools where everyone and everything is “awesome”.
@bballjones I understood what your comment was referring to. I just connected the two separate thoughts into one. Again, I wonder how much you really know about Wake if you are questioning the “institutional character” of the University based upon the fact that you felt hurt that you didn’t get enough love from the school.
Interesting wording about the student, that they have “no reason to believe the student was aware of the alleged financial transaction.” If the student didn’t know there was a payment involved, then it’s OK to lie on the app? Note the statement does not say something like, no reason to believe that the student committed fraudulent statements regarding his/her athletic participation on his/her application.
I know this is not on topic, but do they give a ‘big’ envelop if you’re accepted?
So is the notification process entirely postal or do they send an online letter too???
USPS Informed delivery??
I have that but it just shows outside. Is envelope different for an accept than a reject?
@Roblu37 you are right on topic as this is the RD Class of 2023 thread. We’ve heard a big envelope is good news and a small one not so much. We’ve also heard that Wake Forest tweets out a picture of the mail truck leaving with all the decisions. Hopefully, that’s this coming Friday, 3/22!
Accept envelope has been a tan/gold and black envelope with characters on it like the look book in the past. Yes it is snail mail but we got ours on a Monday all the way in California when my child was accepted a couple of years ago. Good luck to all!!
Acceptance envelope is big with black and gold drawings.
How do you know when the decisions will arrive? Has the date been released?
Follow WFU admssions on Twitter and Instagram. There will be a humerous post when they are loading the mail trucks with decision envelopes, then you wait. D got the envelope on Tuesday after the Friday decision posts; we live about 500 miles from WFU. We saw the mailman on the other side of our street about 30 minutes before he got to our house. It was the longest 30 minutes of our lives.
The acceptance envelope is large and likely won’t show on USPS Informed Delivery.