Want to know your chances?

<p>science applicant or liberal arts? what were your math/verbal subscores? did you take sat?</p>

<p>liberal arts
math 32
english 33
science 34
reading 34
didn't take sat</p>

<p>I'll get the specific stats tomorrow when I go to admissions but it's pretty definitely going to be in the 35-40% admit range</p>

<p>THank you!
Do you know if it is very important to have visited campus and had a campus interview?
A few years ago I saw the campus, but not an official visit. I couldn't really afford to go this year, but it is my first choice school. I live in a rural midwest town and havent been contacted about an interview yet. Someone had said if there isn't an alum near you, you may not get interviewed. Will all of this hurt my chances?</p>

<p>there are no on-campus interviews. I imagine they do, however, keep track of official visits (Mario would know better than me), although usually schools as prestigious as Georgetown don't feel the need to be especially protective of their yield. If you don't get an interview (which is rather unlikely, have you called the regional coordinator-type person? There should have been a card you received for this sort of thing when you sent in your personal info sheet), don't worry about it. It doesn't count against you, and the interview doesn't carry a whole lot of weight anyway.</p>

<p>Also, Mario, just out of curiosity what's the acceptance rate for valedictorians with a 1600?</p>

<p>how does legacy status affect admission? would it be wise to have an alumnus who knows me well to write an additional letter of recommendation?</p>

<p>3.6 unweighted gpa (school doesn't rank)
Sat 710 Math 670 Verbal</p>

<p>School - SFS</p>

<p>Thanks in advance!</p>

<p>verbal: 600 math:800
gpa:3.8
ea mbs
international student
thanks!!</p>

<p>rank: 29 out of 416
sat: 2040
Math: 720
Verbal: 700
act: 31
EA MSB </p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>College or SFS, 780 CR, 770 Math, top 5% rank. 4.6 Wtd. GPA. Thanks from me too.</p>

<p>hi everyone -</p>

<p>"Do you know if it is very important to have visited campus and had a campus interview?"</p>

<p>It's not important that you have visited campus, but it is a good idea to have an alumni interview in your hometown if possible. You might want to call admissions to see if interviews are possible where you live. I stress (like dcforme) that interviews are as much for your benefit as the school's, so don't worry too much about them. A number of applicants each year do not have an interview and it's not a negative. If you have visited campus and liked it, you can mention this in an essay for brownie points (e.g. "when I visited and talked with a professor he talked to me about all the research opportunities for undergrads").</p>

<p>"how does legacy status affect admission? would it be wise to have an alumnus who knows me well to write an additional letter of recommendation?"</p>

<p>Sure, it can't hurt, especially if the alum can communicate to the school why he thinks you'd be a good fit there (beyond just "he's smart" or something generic). Legacies receive overwhelming preference and are preferred at a rate of over 2 to 1 to similar applicants. They even get slightly different admissions letters. It's a bit ridiculous but there it is.</p>

<p>As for all the stats: I went through these quickly but I dont think I made any mistakes. as always let me know if something comes up. also if you are deferred be sure to send the admissions people a letter expressing interest and stuff like that, it helps more than you'd think. </p>

<p>"liberal arts
math 32
english 33
science 34
reading 34
didn't take sat"
714 apply; 220 admitted so over 30%. this is the most common bracket.</p>

<p>"Also, Mario, just out of curiosity what's the acceptance rate for valedictorians with a 1600?"</p>

<p>Well it depends on where they apply. In general the rate is about 80%, though some schools are as high as 95-100% (faculty of language and linguistics I think). </p>

<p>"3.6 unweighted gpa (school doesn't rank)
Sat 710 Math 670 Verbal</p>

<p>School - SFS</p>

<p>Thanks in advance"
No problem. 420 apply; 143 are accepted with your general stats. your GPA is solid so you have a good chance to be one of those 143.</p>

<p>"verbal: 600 math:800
gpa:3.8
ea mbs
international student
thanks!!"
68 apply; 38 in. 800s in math are not common in the business school applicant pool.</p>

<p>"rank: 29 out of 416
sat: 2040
Math: 720
Verbal: 700
act: 31
EA MSB "
29 apply; 7 are accepted. No problem =) i believe you are in same range as Kmz in the first page.</p>

<p>"College or SFS, 780 CR, 770 Math, top 5% rank. 4.6 Wtd. GPA. Thanks from me too."</p>

<p>67 apply; 35 in. odds are slightly better in college.</p>

<p>31 ACT, 4.02 GPA, 8/181</p>

<p>Georgetown College</p>

<p>Thanks, Mario-Vaz! Out of curiosity, what is the acceptance rate for 770+ and no rank for FLL?</p>

<p>What about Nursing students.....are the rules basically the same ? Thoughts on Typical stats would be appreciated !</p>

<p>GPA 93/100 Weighted 101
Class rank 33/222 top 15%
ACT 28</p>

<p>Southern Methodist University</p>

<p>Mario-Vaz, what about 45 out of 400 for rank; 13 APs, Hispanic status and 710 and 700 SATs? also two foreign languages?</p>

<p>31 ACT, 4.02 GPA, 8/181 COL
-->well it would help to know whether you are liberal arts, or sciences; and also the ACT subscores. a general range for you is 519 apply and 90 accepted, though I am guessing some of your subscores and concentration when I use that range.</p>

<p>what is the acceptance rate for 770+ and no rank for FLL?
-->no problem. 36 apply; 24 accepted. if I understand you correctly.</p>

<p>What about Nursing students.....are the rules basically the same ? Thoughts on Typical stats would be appreciated !
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Stats are similar but not as stringent. For example, nursing students with 600s in their SATs have an easier time statistically getting in than other schools. It's not a massive difference but it is generally not quite as competitive. heres averages: nursing - 21.1% accepted, 96.4% avg class rank, 650 average reading sat, 660 average math; 31 avg act. this means the applicant pool is less competitive than the other schools and the stats are lower.</p>

<p>Mario-Vaz, what about 45 out of 400 for rank; 13 APs, Hispanic status and 710 and 700 SATs? also two foreign languages?
---->well the two foreign languages will help a good bit, but I'd need to know what school you are applying to to tell you specifics.</p>

<p>GPA 93/100 Weighted 101
Class rank 33/222 top 15%
ACT 28
---->are you a transfer? transfers are a bit different and other factors like college grades come into play. also, what school are you applying to? if it's the college: 277 apply; 13 are accepted.</p>

<p>Mario, I'd really like to thank you for doing this, you're really providing a lot of very meaningful help to a lot of very stressful people, and responding so in a prompt and timely manner.</p>

<p>In regards to the val with 1600, Why do you think the FLL has such a higher rat than the other schools do on average? Is it generally less competitive? More self-selecting? Does the FLL place more weight on stats? Is there a lower burden to prove you're interested in language than there is to prove you're interested in, say, foreign affairs? Does the other data lend weight to any of these possibilities?</p>

<p>Also, given that half of gtown students are from privates, is there anything the admissions office does in regards to these tables you're seeing (e.g. are private school rankings halved, etc.)?</p>

<p>no problem. i will try to see if I can scan the information if admissions will let me. I don't really work for them, I volunteer. But we'll see. just a quick word about stresesd applicants: don't ever let this process annoy you. even kids with 800s and 4.0s get rejected, sometimes for silly reasons. there are always ways to transfer in if you really want to get into a school. but more importantly there's plenty of great schools and when you actually go to a school, even if you didn't think you'd like it, you'll probably quickly change your mind. =) </p>

<p>"In regards to the val with 1600, Why do you think the FLL has such a higher rat than the other schools do on average? Is it generally less competitive? More self-selecting? Does the FLL place more weight on stats? Is there a lower burden to prove you're interested in language than there is to prove you're interested in, say, foreign affairs? Does the other data lend weight to any of these possibilities?"</p>

<p>Interesting question. FLL applications are primarily considered based on humanities and social sciences background WITH special consideration to "demonstrated language facility." Recommendations from language teachers are important and international experience is helpful. This is in contrast with premed/predental, which emphasize science and math ability; and liberal arts, which focuses on humanities and social science. So there is a lower emphasis on numbers and more emphasis on your specialization as evidenced through your language ability in the FLL. The other schools tend to be more numbers driven since, as you say, it's easier for a high schooler to demonstrate he's good at language than to demonstrate he's good at foreign service.</p>

<p>In regards to the statistics, it is self-selective. Many fewer people apply to FLL, and I'm looking at the statistics right now -- most are very strong applicants. For instance, this data indicates no more than 3 students applied with a 1600 last year to FLL, and a lot of students with lower scores and grades were accepted at a similar rate to the COL (in some cases, their admit rate was lower).</p>

<p>"Also, given that half of gtown students are from privates, is there anything the admissions office does in regards to these tables you're seeing (e.g. are private school rankings halved, etc.)?"
I'm not sure what you mean by halved, but I don't have the data to suggest private school gives any advantage or disadvantage, and I'm confident it does not in and of itself.</p>

<p>Thanks for the quick reply! Do they count the Law School in the legacy status or just college? Thx again.</p>