<p>Mario,</p>
<p>I know you did this once for me, but want to get your opinion. Should my d use ACT or SAT scores? She is also apply for science in the college</p>
<p>SAT - V 630 M 770 W 700
ACT 33 S-36 M -34 V - 34 R - 28
10 AP courses - ap scholor w/dist.
3.97 UW GPA 4.66 Weighted (w honors) 4.4 (w with just AP's)</p>
<p>Thanks for doing this. It is very interesting.</p>
<p>ACT 33 is equivalent to SAT 1460-1500 or 2190 ... which is a bit better than your D's SAT score (1400/2100). I vote for the ACT.</p>
<p>Well it doesn't hurt to list both, since the 770 math is another strong factor recommending you for the science program. Remember, one of the things science applicants are scrutinized for is proven math/science ability. The ACT does this, and so does the SAT -- verbal scores are not as important as the math for science applicants. So my recommendation is to use both, especially since the SAT is a more common standard. Goblue is right, ACT is considered a bit higher on the comparison charts, but it would not be a bad thing to also have SAT.</p>
<p>"Thanks for the quick reply! Do they count the Law School in the legacy status or just college? Thx again."
Any connection to the college is helpful. As far I know in terms of statistics, this kind of connection (relative at the law school) is not considered a real legacy status though.</p>
<p>For the School of Foreign Service, do you know if they count English and history scores more than math and science scores by any chance? Thanks again!</p>
<p>Mario-Vaz, what about 45 out of 400 for rank; 13 APs, Hispanic status and 710 and 700 SATs? also two foreign languages?
---->well the two foreign languages will help a good bit, but I'd need to know what school you are applying to to tell you specifics.</p>
<p>Mario, I'd be applying to Georgetown College or SFS, whichever has better odds. Also, found out today that I am ranked 49 out of 350.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Mario-VAz, I keep getting the class rank wrong: 40 out of 225. Sorry for the confusion.</p>
<p>I'd have better class rank, but I took 13 APs, more than anyone else in my grade.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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since the 770 math is another strong factor recommending you for the science program. Remember, one of the things science applicants are scrutinized for is proven math/science ability.
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Good point. Besides, Georgetown requires 3 SAT Subjects so your SAT I score comes with that anyway.</p>
<p>Mario, Is the 3-subjects requirement mandatory? Will submitting only two hurts your chance? I'm asking because international applicants on non-science track may have problem fielding the third subject.</p>
<p>"For the School of Foreign Service, do you know if they count English and history scores more than math and science scores by any chance? Thanks again!"
---->humanities and social sciences are emphasized, but as I look at the numbers, the verbal scores on average are only 20 points higher. no problem.</p>
<p>"Mario-Vaz, what about 40 out of 225 for rank; 13 APs, Hispanic status and 710 and 700 SATs? also two foreign languages?"
---->164 apply; 13 in in college-liberal arts. 64 apply; 3 in if college-premed. 75 apply; 6 in if SFS. and you are welcome, however:</p>
<p>Unfortunately I can't account for the other "soft factors" you mentioned with these statistics. Difficulty of program, hispanic status , and the foreign languages help you stand out within the range that you are in. But the range you are in is only determined by SAT/ACT/Class rank/School applying to/etc. Other factors will help though so you have a shot in either school.</p>
<p>"Mario, Is the 3-subjects requirement mandatory? Will submitting only two hurts your chance? I'm asking because international applicants on non-science track may have problem fielding the third subject"</p>
<p>Not mandatory, but highly recommended. If you can't take a third SAT II and have an expectation of doing fairly well, do not take one. If it really bothers you, you can include a note explaining that it is hard for you as an international applicant to fulfill the requirement.</p>
<p>Thanks Mario.</p>
<p>SATI: V-770, M-670, W-670
(1440 V&M, 2110 All Three)</p>
<p>SATII - 780 in World History, 770 in US History, 760 in Biology E.</p>
<p>GPA is 96/100 in a public school.</p>
<p>Rank is in the Top 5%, 20 out of 601.</p>
<p>I'm applying to the college EA for liberal arts.</p>
<p>Oh, and I've taken 3 AP tests so far (5 on World History, 4 on English Lang, but only a 2 on AP Bio XP)</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
<p>Hi Mario</p>
<p>GPA: 3.7 UW ( will go up with senior year); 4.33 W</p>
<p>SAT II: 730 World History, taking two more in Nov</p>
<p>SAT: 730 CR, 670 M </p>
<p>AP: WH: 5, APUSH: 5, AP LIT: 5</p>
<p>Rank: Our school doesn't rank but from general ELC guidelines( eligiblity in the local index for UC schools in california), I am in the top 12.5%--I would say top 10%</p>
<p>NMSF, AP scholar, 8 AP classes( including this year)</p>
<p>SFS or college for major in gender studies or language( please give breakdown for each if available)</p>
<p>*My gpa would be much higher if not for unforeseen extenuating circumstances which will be explained in an essay; all A's except for one semester with 4 B's and 2 C's</p>
<p>hey Mario,</p>
<p>Is it true that they defer a lot of legacy applicants to RD in order to free up more spots in EA while they know most of the legacies will come anyway even if defered?</p>
<p>Mario~ just curious how the process works. Are there diff readers for diff schools or do the readers read all applications and apply diff standards for diff schools? THX</p>
<p>Hi Mario</p>
<p>Do you know how much a low GPA (~3.6) will hurt in the application process, and whether a high SAT score (2210) will help? I have lots of EC's and excellent rec's. What do you think my chances for admission are? Thanks a lot</p>
<p>Hello Mario:</p>
<p>I guess I'll give it a try as well. I'm applying to McDonough EA.</p>
<p>Act: 32
Class Rank: N/A
GPA: 3.9 UW
SAT II: N/A
4/5 AP's total (depending if you count both Micro and Macro)</p>
<p>(if these help)...
Congress President
Eagle Scout
Forensics State Champion
Captain</p>
<p>I swore to myself I wouldn't do any of these chances threads... but this is too tempting.</p>
<p>I'm applying to Nursing and Health Studies EA.
ACT: 33
SAT 2160--730CR 670M & 2190-- 800CR 680M (do they superscore? b/c if so, then 2240)
GPA: 4.0 UW
SAT II's: Lit- 760 & Math 2 -790
Rank: 2/90</p>
<p>Thanks!!</p>
<p>I'm sorry for the slow response, it is mid-terms and everyone is swamped with work. When I get back to my dorm in a few hours I will respond to these questions though!</p>
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<p>SATI: V-770, M-670, W-670
(1440 V&M, 2110 All Three)</p>
<p>SATII - 780 in World History, 770 in US History, 760 in Biology E.
GPA is 96/100 in a public school.
Rank is in the Top 5%, 20 out of 601.</p>
<h2>I'm applying to the college EA for liberal arts.</h2>
<p>678 apply ; 139 in ; however given the very high SAT 2 scores I would say have a good shot, especially in regular decision. Never know though, but you're in a good spot</p>
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<p>SAT II: 730 World History, taking two more in Nov
SAT: 730 CR, 670 M
Rank: Our school doesn't rank but from general ELC guidelines( eligiblity in the local index for UC schools in california), I am in the top 12.5%--I would say top 10%
NMSF, AP scholar, 8 AP classes( including this year)
SFS or college for major in gender studies or language( please give breakdown for each if available)</p>
<h2>*My gpa would be much higher if not for unforeseen extenuating circumstances which will be explained in an essay; all A's except for one semester with 4 B's and 2 C's</h2>
<p>college liberal arts: 1,096 apply; 124 in .
college language: 156 apply ; 34 in
sfs 465;64 in
given the extenuating circumstances I say you have a good shot in all three schools, remember, these ranges do not take into account SOFT factors, just stats -- so the nice AP scores, the SAT 2s, etc set you apart within the range I provide.</p>
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<h2>Is it true that they defer a lot of legacy applicants to RD in order to free up more spots in EA while they know most of the legacies will come anyway even if defered?</h2>
<p>Nope. a good number of legacies are deferred but this is because they don't have the stats for EA. the stats for getting in EA are really difficult even for legacies.</p>
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<h2>Mario~ just curious how the process works. Are there diff readers for diff schools or do the readers read all applications and apply diff standards for diff schools? THX</h2>
<p>Admissions officers do read for specific areas so as to provide consistency in their decisions but they aren't necessarily affiliated with the school or program. One professor I know on the admissions board reads COL applications + SFS applications. But as far as the procedure specifics, I cannot give many because I don't actually sit in with admissions in making decisions.</p>
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<h2>Do you know how much a low GPA (~3.6) will hurt in the application process, and whether a high SAT score (2210) will help? I have lots of EC's and excellent rec's. What do you think my chances for admission are? Thanks a lot</h2>
<p>Well to give you specific chances I'd need to know more info (rank in class and what school you are applying to and score breakdown). But generally speaking the GPA and SAT are the two most important factors by far. A low GPA is not so bad; what really matters is rank in class. If your 3.6 puts you out of the top 15%, then it is going to be a rather large hurdle no matter what your SAT score is. If you are in the top 15% or so, then the high SAT score may carry you through.</p>
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<p>Act: 32
Class Rank: N/A
GPA: 3.9 UW
SAT II: N/A
4/5 AP's total (depending if you count both Micro and Macro)</p>
<p>(if these help)...
Congress President
Eagle Scout
Forensics State Champion</p>
<h2>Captain</h2>
<p>541 apply ; 122 accepted. I cannot factor in your superb extracirriculars, but those (and the great AP scores) will make you stand out in this range as soft factors!</p>
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<p>I swore to myself I wouldn't do any of these chances threads... but this is too tempting.</p>
<p>I'm applying to Nursing and Health Studies EA.
ACT: 33
SAT 2160--730CR 670M & 2190-- 800CR 680M (do they superscore? b/c if so, then 2240)
GPA: 4.0 UW
SAT II's: Lit- 760 & Math 2 -790
Rank: 2/90</p>
<h2>Thanks!!</h2>
<p>No problem. I understand why you hate chance threads. They just give a general idea. No numbers, especially not my numbers, can account for all your other strengths as an applicant. Even if you have a 20 out of 500 chance or whatever, you can still realistically get in if you have good recs, extracirriculars, and essay.</p>
<p>But anyway. As far as your stats: 9 apply and 6 are accepted. Given your SAT 2 scores..I would say your chances are outstanding. Over 60%! but dont get cocky, work on those essays and make sure your teachers don't ambush you on your recs.</p>
<p>Wow thanks! I'm definitely trying to keep my expectations low though. The essays are what I'm most worried about atm. There's only one teacher rec, right? I have a really good relationship with teacher that is doing my rec (I've spent a lot of time out of class with her for clubs and independent science research), so that should be all good :)
thanks again mario-vaz! Good luck on your mid-terms.</p>
<p>Mario, </p>
<p>You are such a wealth of knowledge, I was wondering if you know if you don't apply for financial aid (can afford to pay full tuition), and have good stats if this increases your chances. I know everyone says they are needs blind, but can they really discount tuition for everyone? D's stats are in line with admission 3.96 UW 4.6 W 780M 640V 710W 33 ACT 36S 35M 34V 28 R</p>
<p>Mario,
If I have SAT II scores of 660 Math 2, and 710 Chem, would it be better not to report them for EA since they aren't that great ? I have a 33 ACT, top 4%, liberal arts. Planning on taking 2 more SAT II's in Dec.</p>