Washington Post: Colleges Go Online to Calm the Admissions Jitters

<p>Colleges Go Online to Calm the Admissions Jitters</p>

<p>By Susan Kinzie
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 24, 2007; A01</p>

<p>Daniel Creasy and the other Johns Hopkins University admissions office staff have to read 200 files a week to get through the 14,840 applications piled on chairs and crates in the hallways. That's 65 percent more applicants than they had just five years ago -- so many, Creasy joked, that he has to get his dog to help read them.</p>

<p>He even posted a photo of his dog, paws planted next to a stack of files, on the Hopkins admissions Web site.</p>

<p>Creasy is trying to lighten things a little and ease some of the anxiety of the application process as the admissions frenzy whips up. With more applicants than ever competing to get into the top schools, students' stress is obvious. It chokes online message boards about college admissions. (One site -- where overachievers crunch numbers, analyze their chances and obsess over scores -- had 17,048 posts about Hopkins alone.)</p>

<p>Now, some schools have staff members like Creasy who not only read files but monitor message boards, field questions on their own Web sites and try to humanize the process.</p>

<p>In charge of Hopkins Insider, "a behind-the-scenes look at the Johns Hopkins Admissions Office," Creasy hopes to take away some of the mystery, correct misinformation here and there, crack some jokes and, occasionally, talk students off the ledge.</p>

<p>"When I got into the field, I was told this is a very secretive field. Not a lot of people know what we do," Creasy said. "I agreed with that." Many in admissions still do. Creasy used to think of himself as an admissions officer, working for the institution to create the strongest possible 1,200-student incoming class. Now, he has far more contact with applicants -- at least electronically -- and knows just how much they're sweating the admissions process.</p>

<p>He's begun to see himself as more of an admissions counselor instead.</p>

<p>"So many applicants think of admissions as this abyss where you toss in an application and never hear what happens to it," said Ben Jones, who helped transform the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's admissions Web site into a percolating conversation among hundreds of students and staff members. "That creates a level of anxiety and stress that is increasing as years go on and admissions become increasingly competitive."</p>

<p>Last month, MIT posted winners of an essay contest about the admissions process. One applicant created animation set to the Zombies' "Time of the Season" with a stick figure waiting by a mailbox in the snow. Another wrote about anxiety, pressure and a classmate who applied to Stanford and hanged himself.</p>

<p>Jeannine C. Lalonde, an assistant dean of admission at the University of Virginia, said: "They picture people in a room with a big 'REJECT' stamp. This makes people realize we're real, we're accessible, we're not scary."</p>

<p>So Creasy blogs. He writes about how many files he has to read, explaining the admissions process, the months of late-night reading and discussion about applicants. He introduces other staffers, giving their backgrounds, favorite animals ("Not a Bushbaby -- those things scare me," one wrote) and admissions pet peeves. (Tip: Don't leave the "s" out of Johns.)</p>

<p>He describes how he works, with a blue binder, glass of water, iPod, calculator and eight -- eight! -- calendars. He adds photos of the stacks of applications and of his niece, crawling along the floor. And he writes such things as: " . . . most of us have dreams (nightmares???) about application files, letters of recommendations, paper/folder cuts, grading scales, aaaaahhhhh!"</p>

<p>And even with application folders filling 23 five-drawer filing cabinets along a wall of the office and spilling onto most other flat surfaces, Creasy has gotten to know more about individual students such as Christy Thai, a high school senior from Olney.</p>

<p>She was worried about her scores last year. Then she found a college admissions message board with people posting their statistics and felt even worse. "It was bad," she said, "because it made me believe I won't get accepted to any college."</p>

<p>As decisions near, the drama peaks online, with people writing, for example, "ONE MORE HOUR!!!!!" until admission and rejection results would be posted and "I can't take it!"</p>

<p>When Creasy reads those message boards, he knows the people who write often are a small minority even of those who are competing for the most selective schools. "But it does scare me sometimes," he said. "The intensity."</p>

<p>It's great that students have access to so much more information, said John Latting, director of undergraduate admissions at Hopkins. "The flip side is a sort of hysteria about college admissions." He worries about college rankings, which can make families think their options are limited to a short list of elite schools, and the misinformation floating around.</p>

<p>On a recent night, someone listed his SAT scores (in the 700s on each part) on a site and wrote: "Guys, do you think I have a chance to be admitted. I am really nervous. . ."</p>

<p>Someone told him he had a 50-50 chance.</p>

<p>"Some of the information out there is just shockingly, shockingly bad," said Lalonde, who monitors sites for U-Va. and often posts corrections and clarifications. "I get bombarded," she said, with nervous students and parents dragging her to other online discussions to answer new questions.</p>

<p>Creasy tries to fight the stereotypes of Hopkins -- that the school cares only about numbers and scores, not the applicants, and that the atmosphere on campus is hypercompetitive and cutthroat. He takes questions. How many?</p>

<p>"More," he said, "than you could ever imagine."</p>

<p>Thai sent some after finding that her early-decision application had been deferred to the regular admissions pool. She didn't know quite what to think -- was it all over for her? -- so she posted to the Hopkins message board and got answers and a list of suggestions from Creasy right away. "I felt like 'Oh, good, I have another chance!' " she said.</p>

<p>Now at Hopkins, a group of students gives Creasy ideas for admissions, helps him monitor the message boards and answers questions. Some blog.</p>

<p>Creasy runs contests, shares his Oscar picks, posts pictures of teddy bears wearing little Hopkins hoodies and chats online about his favorite TV shows, such as "24." "24 is on in just a few hours!" one applicant posted recently. "Haha sweet i was the closest!" another wrote after a contest.</p>

<p>Thai checks the site often. "It's really better. It kept my nerves down and stress down."</p>

<p>Not that all the applicants are laid-back now. Far from it.</p>

<p>"We definitely get students who communicate with us on an obsessive level," Creasy said. But overall, he thinks the changes the school has made help it connect better.</p>

<p>That means making Hopkins more appealing, he hopes -- and luring more applicants. And making it even tougher to get in.</p>

<p>Thanks for posting the article WOI. No doubt about it, this is a tough time of year in the admissions cycle for parents, students, and, as the WP article points out, even admissions officers. The introduction of blogging into the mix is interesting - the role of the admissions officer is not at all so clear cut these days and there is a need to be part admissions counselor. After reading the article, my basic reflection was -what goes on behind closed doors is a secret, that is not going to change because, frankly, that's just a fact of the elite admissions process. Yet, these days we are bombarded with sources of misinformation so we are lucky to have adcoms out there like Ben Jones and Jeannine Lalonde who take the time and trouble to stimulate all those percolating conversations, reach out, get the right information out there, and just be there for all of us. Kudos and a big Thanks.</p>

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"Some of the information out there is just shockingly, shockingly bad," said Lalonde, who monitors sites for U-Va. and often posts corrections and clarifications. "I get bombarded," she said, with nervous students and parents dragging her to other online discussions to answer new questions.

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<p>I also want to thank "WealthOfInformation" for posting a fantastic article (am I biased?). In addition, I completely agree with "asteriskea" that there needs to be more people in my profession that see themselves first as Admissions Counselors. Ben and Jeannine are two perfect examples, and I must say I enjoying reading their blogs as must as I enjoy writing my own.</p>

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<p>I feel as though the admission officer bloggers are part of an informal team because of what we do. While we don't run into each other often on this site, I read the Hopkins, MIT, and Chicago blogs through my RSS reader every morning and I think they're great! </p>

<p>I should add that Susan Kinzie deserves kudos for her solid articles about college admission. There's a big name writer at The Post who can be a bit biased in his reporting and it's refreshing to see Susan's pieces getting attention. When I talked to her initially, I think she was heading in a certain direction with the article and it really turned out differently; It's much more positive.</p>

<p>Anyway, here's</a> another article to check out along related lines. In this day and age, we're trying to tell students to tone down the information they post online. At points, this article says we're just a bunch of fuddy-duddies that don't understand the new norm. Pretty interesting.</p>

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So it may be time to consider the possibility that young people who behave as if privacy doesn’t exist are actually the sane people, not the insane ones. For someone like me, who grew up sealing my diary with a literal lock, this may be tough to accept. But under current circumstances, a defiant belief in holding things close to your chest might not be high-minded.

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<p>Hey there, Admissions_Daniel and Dean J! As a relative newcomer to the admissions blog scene, I'm glad to see that there are more of us out there, both public and private. Keep up the great work!</p>

<p>Chris D'Orso
Stony Brook University</p>

<p>I always enjoy hearing from DeanJ and Ben Jones when they post on the Parent Forum. I don't frequent their schools' forums, but I do follow JHU. I can actually feel the tension reducing effect of what AdmissionsDaniel does there. And the kids are so grateful that they can get a straight answer from the horse's mouth. I'm sure it's the same on all of the forum where admissions counselors and deans participate. Of course, it's not a panacea; the stress is real. But it is a major help, I think, and much appreciated.</p>

<p>AdmissionsDaniel, I don't think you are biased in the least bit - it is a fantastic article and I commend your efforts "to lighten things a little and ease some of the anxiety of the application process as the admissions frenzy whips up". I do agree with jmmom - there is no panacea for the stress associated with the college admissions process, but the need to humanize such a potentially dehumanizing process is just as real - blogging cuts both ways precisely because the rapid exchange of information over the internet creates such an intense sense of immediacy and intimacy - I may be a fuddy-duddy according to the New York magazine article but I am a proud fuddy-duddy who thinks that limits, common sense, and the human touch is and ought to be an integral part of the mix and the new norm - especially since such rapid and interactive modes of information exchange are in such a state of constant flux and change these days. After reading the article Dean J linked, I am even more intrigued by Dean J's comment that Susan Kinze changed the direction of her original storyline to a more positive one. I, for one, am glad she did.</p>

<p>As a student, I feel as if these types of admissions counselors can be one of the biggest assets to sites such as CC. I won't be surprised if many other great schools begin to become more internet friendly in the next couple of years.</p>

<p>GIME - It's going to be hard not to be more internet friendly; I stumbled across CC a few weeks ago and was stunned by the questions being asked here -- ones that should have been asked directly to our office. If students and parents are here, why shouldn't we be? College admissions shouldn't be some great mystery. It won't ever be completely transparent -- and that's probably a good thing -- but it's important that we break down the wall and open up dialogue.</p>

<p>am I allowed to ask where I can read the blogs refered to in the article? I'm quite interested, not because I'm stressing about admissions, i'm not the type, but because i'm geniunely interested to see how it all works.</p>

<p>LadyLou:</p>

<p>Hopkins: <a href="http://hopkins.typepad.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://hopkins.typepad.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>MIT: <a href="http://www.mitadmissions.org/Ben.shtml%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.mitadmissions.org/Ben.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Note: Both schools have a whole bunch of admissions/marketing-related blogs, which are easily accessible from links on the pages above.</p>

<p>Lady Lou, I have a list of as many admission blogs as I've been able to track down. I'll try to be thorough...</p>

<p>UVA - <a href="http://uvaadmission.blogspot.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://uvaadmission.blogspot.com/&lt;/a> (higher ed issues) and <a href="http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com&lt;/a> (the application process)</p>

<p>Johns Hopkins - <a href="http://hopkins.typepad.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://hopkins.typepad.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The MIT blogs (there are more): <a href="http://ben.mitblogs.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://ben.mitblogs.com/&lt;/a>, <a href="http://daniel.mitblogs.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://daniel.mitblogs.com/&lt;/a>, <a href="http://nance.mitblogs.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://nance.mitblogs.com/&lt;/a>, <a href="http://matt.mitblogs.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://matt.mitblogs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Chicago - <a href="http://uncommonapplication07-08.blogspot.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://uncommonapplication07-08.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Case Western Reserve - <a href="http://blog.case.edu/admission/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://blog.case.edu/admission/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Oregon State - <a href="http://oregonstate.edu/admissions/blog/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://oregonstate.edu/admissions/blog/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Connecticut College - <a href="http://admissionblog.conncoll.edu/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://admissionblog.conncoll.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Olin College of Engineering - <a href="http://admissionblog.olin.edu/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://admissionblog.olin.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Providence College - <a href="http://www.blogs.targetx.com/providence/ScottSeseske/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.blogs.targetx.com/providence/ScottSeseske/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Admission blogs not by college admission officers:
Scott White (Montclair High School, NJ) - <a href="http://scottwhitesworld.blogspot.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://scottwhitesworld.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Shaun McElroy (Shanghai American School) - <a href="http://www.internationalcounselor.org/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.internationalcounselor.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>A Group Blog (part NACAC, part private counselor) - <a href="http://www.collegeadmissionblog.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegeadmissionblog.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Carolyn Lawrence - <a href="http://www.admissionsadvice.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.admissionsadvice.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Jeannie Borin (Private Counselor ) - <a href="http://college-connections.blogspot.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://college-connections.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Linda Abraham (Private Counselor ) - <a href="http://blog.accepted.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://blog.accepted.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Bari Norman (Private Counselor) - <a href="http://mycollegecounselor.blogspot.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://mycollegecounselor.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Tony Mortenson (The Pell Institute, Policy Analyst) - <a href="http://postsecondaryopportunity.blogspot.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://postsecondaryopportunity.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Will Dix (University of Chicago Lab School) - <a href="http://collegeadvisor.blogspot.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://collegeadvisor.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>One of the easiest ways to read these blogs (and any other blogs you come across) is to use a problem along the lines of Google</a> Reader. You past in the addresses of the blogs you like and all you have to do is log into your reader every morning to see if they have new entries. You can organize you blogs into groups, too, so you won't be overwhelmed by reading.</p>

<p>Dean J,
thank you so much for that. I think I am going to end up spending much of my evening reading those blogs, i find them quite addicitve!
I know colleges don't intend for it to be this way, but the whole process is quite mysterious and it's very interesting to be able to see what goes on from a reliable source.</p>

<p>I have never seen Google Reader before, but am about to start doing so. Looks a lot better than be clicking on the pages of the 5/6 blogs I read to see if they have been updates every morning and evening!</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

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<p>Also, I should add Stony Brook's blog: <a href="http://sbuchris.blogspot.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://sbuchris.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>:) Thanks, Dean J!</p>

<p>thanks for the blog links</p>

<p>Heh, it's odd to see that admissions officers (counselors, if you will) are actually human, no?</p>

<p>Ha, I can't imagine how difficult your jobs are. It sounds very, very daunting.</p>

<p>I'm glad an article was written about (probably) this forum; sometimes people's negativity towards certain scores is really overwhelming. When I was "chanced" people were pretty positive, but I've seen some kids with stats and Ecs to make your jaw drop and members say "long, long reach" to every school on their list.</p>

<p>Well that is often sarcasm or jealousy. Which is silly because you can have the jaw-droppers and you can have the average CCer and both can get into the great schools. 1) It's so holistic and 2) [Excuse me any admission counselor reading this; I am sure you're the exception] It can be a crapshoot (in technical terms...). The person that knows your chances best is most often you! Unless you're the admissions counselor reading my application. Then I will concede that you know a lot better than I do.</p>

<p>GIME - it's okay, we know what you mean. It's really tough to go by what other folks are saying around here; you're just a username and whatever statistics you choose to list here at CC, whereas we're looking at (hopefully) a more complete picture.</p>

<p>Chris</p>