<p>and semiptern, I'm sure your waitlisted status from Wash U and your general negative acerbic attitude towards the school has nothing to do with your much-voiced opinion against Wash U.</p>
<p>Take advice from a student that has been accepted to both NU and Wash U, and visited both. They are, for all general purposes, similar. Go where you like and enjoy the next four years.</p>
<p>"I'm sure your waitlisted status from Wash U and your general negative acerbic attitude towards the school has nothing to do with your much-voiced opinion against Wash U."</p>
<p>of course it does... lol, </p>
<p>thats why I beat up on Washu so much</p>
<p>of course, northwestern isnt that better in terms of app status. It took them 3 weeks to send me an app in novermber after repeated requests. I found that if they didnt want to send me an app, I wouldnt want to go to a school where I was unwelcome(washu, however, did send my hoards of stuff along with their course catalog...)</p>
<p>but in the end, I would choose NU</p>
<p>chicago is more metropolitan than st. louis</p>
<p>btw, no one can dispute the political history in my earlier post... lol, I am a poli sci junkie :)</p>
<p>yea im not quite sure what the point of that random political tangent was... i guess it was to show how chicago and the surrounding area is better.</p>
<p>DueDiligence,</p>
<p>When I was a freshmen in at WashU in 1995, many of us, including myself (Brown reject) was rejected somewhere else--Stanford, Ivies, Rice, and Northwestern, except those that got merit-based scholarships. I don't know about now, but around 1995, WashU was even more of someone's second-choice than Northwestern (I later transferred to NU)! Perhaps WashU seems less inflicted because quite a few did pick it as their first choice once merit-based money was taken into consideration whereas NU doesn't give any of that; also when I was there, most that were rejected didn't really believe they could get into their #1 choice anyway. Whereas at NU, many did believe they had a shot (I did notice immediately NU's students were of higher caliber at that time) and that might be why that sentiment of second fiddle was felt more. NU has been playing the second-fiddle to Ivies for a much longer time than WashU, so maybe the "tradition" also give you a more exaggerated view of that sentiment. However, the fact is NU still has significantly better yield than WashU. </p>
<p>The frat scene and the sports are overstated on this board. NU's football sucks most of the time and most people don't follow it when it's bad. The frat scene is pretty tame compared to other Big10 schools. Most of us who weren't in frats didn't feel any pressure to join.</p>
<p>I got into Cornell, J Hopkins, Rice, U of Chicago, and NW, and I am strongly considering NW.</p>
<p>those are all good schools... out of the choices presented I think I would have chosen Rice</p>
<p>I would choose Hopkins/NW.</p>
<p>eh those are good too</p>
<p>much better than washu :)</p>
<p>DueDiligence,</p>
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man, kudos on getting into NU. I remember looking at the application, and seeing 7 short paragraphs/essay!! damyn (hell's no). so yeah, i was a lazy bum and didn't apply...
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<p>Someone on Cornell board wrote that. I have mentioned many times already that this "NU--Ivy reject" is overstated. It's no more of "Ivy reject" than other great non-Ivies like JHU, CMU, WashU...etc. NU still get 16000+ application without using common application. It may not be necessarily their ultimate #1 choice, but most applicants must have seen something they like about it and be interested enough in order to complete the application.</p>
<p>Also, NU has quite a few programs that most Ivies can't match--journalism, theater, film studies, education, mat sci, industrial engg, ISP, MMSS, and HPME. Most people that are interested in these programs often have NU as #1 choice.</p>
<p>I visited both this week, and it definately helped in my decision. I have decided on Wash U, basically because I like it better. Without knowing my major, I can't decide based on a specific topic. Both schools are very strong, so it basically came down to which I prefered.</p>
<p>and you guys all know that NW isnt really <em>in</em> chicago. Then again, neither is WUSTL <em>in</em> STL. They're both in suburbs right outside the city.</p>
<p>Part of WashU (undergrad) is in St. Louis City. Most of it is in University City and Clayton, two suburbs of St. Louis that sligthy touch the city. However, all of WashU med school is in the city of St. Louis.</p>
<p>isnt East St. Louis really dangerous?</p>
<p>Yeah, East St Louis is bad. I'm scared to go over there. However, some parts of it are okay.</p>
<p>its on the other side of the river</p>