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<p>.....I'm not even gonna get into this on a college advice website lol</p>
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lol is this a joke? did thefreshprince ACTUALLY try to compare suny and cuny to the UC SYSTEM!
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please, they cant even compare, let alone, be better than the UC system as a whole.
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<p>Well...if you thoroughly read my post, you would see that I said "give the UC system a run"...not better. And second, besides Berkeley and UCLA, (maybe add UCSD) all the other schools in the UC system are either on par or worse than most SUNY schools. And let's not forget Cornell's affiliation with the SUNY system. Ivy or not, it's still one of the best schools in the country.</p>
<p>thefreshprince,</p>
<p>Affiliations are just that- affiliations. By that token, Cal and Stanford have affiliations, and UCLA and CalTech have affiliations. That doesn't make them necessarily better or worse for them.</p>
<p>Do those affiliations involve transfer agreements?</p>
<p>California community colleges have transfer agreements with several universities and colleges in California. </p>
<p>Does that make them better?</p>
<p>Do they have any with the colleges you previously listed is what I was inquiring...not trying to be anal, I'm just curious. Because I think you were using the term "affiliation" to define personal/faculty connections, whereas I was using the term to define something more tangible, a written, documented affiliation (admissions wise) with the SUNY system</p>
<p>Community colleges in CA have associations with schools ranging from Berkeley to UCLA to USC to Claremont.</p>
<p>That doesn't make them great schools.</p>
<p>Actually, UCLAri, if the community colleges withold their part of the agreement to keep the work up to par with UC standards, then it does make them good schools (better than other community colleges in the country).</p>
<p>Well, actually it does, in the sense that they offer opportunities that some other schools do not. Isn't that why most people pick one college over the other? Because one offers them more opportunies than another would. For instance, if I want to go to USC, and a local community college has a transfer agreement with USC, would'nt it be in my best interests to pick this CC over another that does not? i.e...making it a "great" college choice for me? Think about it.....</p>
<p>I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say California has the best public education system (after hs, of course lol) in the country, if not the nation.</p>
<p>There's three tiers.</p>
<p>(1) Community College
(2) Cal State
(3) University of California</p>
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<p>(4) private universities and colleges, such as Stanford, Pomona College, et al. </p>
<p>Each UC, yes even UC Riverside, conducts cutting edge research. It is both accessible and affordable. With that said, I hope I get into Penn tomorrow! :p (i plan on moving out to NYC, where theres a lot more opportunities for finance/econ majors)...</p>
<p>gabe and thefreshprince,</p>
<p>Okay, let's stop playing in the semantics sandbox for a minute and be serious. Here's the deal- yes, California CCs aren't that bad. In fact, as far as CCs go, they're pretty good. BUT, they are still not "great" or "outstanding" or "excellent" institutions.</p>
<p>I mean, not like I'd know, considering I've taken classes at three of the better CCs in So Cal...</p>
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It depends on which schools you are comparing; compared to other community colleges, as they should be, they are probably the best in the nation.</p>
<p>That's like being at the top of the 25th percentile.</p>
<p>It's not fair to compare community colleges to schools where you can get a BA or BS.</p>
<p>not to mention the cheapest...where can you get $26 per unit? Just a few years back it was as low as $8 per unit....</p>
<p>It will be free if Steve Westly becomes governor.</p>
<p>Hah! Suckers! In my day it was $11.</p>
<p>I lived during the renaissance, I tell you!</p>
<p>It went from $11 to $18 to $26 in like a week.</p>
<p>yea just a year before I joined it was 18 or something....at florida I heard it was 63 per credit...at other states it's also pretty expensive...so CA probably has the cheapest out of all the CC systems in the US</p>
<p>Tuition at Santa Monica College (per unit)
summer '03- $11
Fall '03- $18
Spring '04- $26</p>
<p>plus many programs like architecture were cancelled in 04 due to budget cuts.</p>