<p>I have seen different threads with regards to how they look at your GPA. I saw that they don't look at electives? I have taken many dual-enrollment courses for college credit over my HS career. Are these considered electives and are these included in the calculation of your GPA? Thanks.</p>
<p>Dual enrollment are weighted the same as honors courses .5</p>
<p>Thanks for your help</p>
<p>If you contact admissions after they receive your transcripts they can tell you your FSU calculated GPA.</p>
<p>intresting today my college assistance program counselor(cap) showed me a list of our schools acceptances for FSU, and there they included our gpa's I was a bit surprised by how they calculated it, my uw=3.0 w gpa=4.8, fsu gpa=3.6 so i think theyre quite generous. Funny how my cap counselor also had this years fsu freshman class gpa.</p>
<p>Fsu I'm very interested in your post although I'm trying to understand your numbers if your unweighted gpa is 3.0 I'm thinking your weighted GPA could be 3.8 maybe not 4.8? The previous poster was correct you do get .5 extra for AP, IB ect. who is being generous?</p>
<p>FSU's median GPA is 3.6 so I'd agree with that one.</p>
<p>FSU weights AP and IB a full point, Honors and Dual Enrollment a half point.<br>
This is the same as UF.</p>
<p>Thanks Cybermom, now I understand why the GPA's are so inflated. We may disagree but I'll go on record and and say that a AP level class doesn't command a full letter grade bonus. Especially when I compare the ranking of the high schools back here in NY and the difficulty of our regents non AP programs for which the kids got no weight down here.</p>
<p>I disagree. At my child's high school, the AP classes definitely are worth a half point more than the honors level. Even the top 5% of the class can rarely manage to take more than 3 of them at a time (since they are so difficult and time consuming). You are not even permitted to take them unless you have an A average in the previous years Honors level of that subject.</p>
<p>Well no problem with disagreement people always will not be in agreement. Although I would probably make the argument of just taking a normal schedule of Chemistry, Math, English, US History, and social science is difficult and very time consuming so you lost me on that one. Also are you making the inference that everything beyond AP is just easy and not time consuming? I can tell you it isn't in NY. Kids even in a normal program here in NY have 2-3 hours of Homework on average everynight, and that doesn't include the time that they spend at the Library and such doing their labs papers ect. I don't like the aspect of this unweighted vrs weighted GPA because it makes the assumption that a kid who takes a regular course vrs a kid who takes an advanced course if they were to take a different level course they would either do worst or better if they took the different level. Who can really say with any evidence that if a kid takes a history class lets say and gets an A in a regular course that if they took the AP level course they would get a B. On the flip side whats to say if a kid took an AP course and got a B that they would automatically get a A. That's my problem with the process it's not factual.</p>
<p>Back to this kid, I just think the more he posts the more I think something is wrong here. He posted that he had a overall 83 average which is barely a B and in the case of several school it's not even 3.0 work as they look for 85 to be the threshold between 3 and 2. On another post he told us that he got into the honors program at USF and got scholarship money with this level of performance. On another post he said his UW GPA is 3.0 and his Weighted GPA is 4.8. I don't think it is possible.</p>
<p>In the simplest calculation lets say he had all B's and he took all AP classes (probably not true, but lets assume that) so his overall GPA unweighted is 3.0. If he had all AP classes he would get an additional point for each mark raising each B to an A so now his Weighted GPA is 4.0. How he gets to 4.8 I can't explain except if I don't understand the calculations anymore.</p>
<p>I correct myself and I apologize to fsu-uf I was looking at a different post than his. When I made the comments about overall GPA and honors.</p>
<p>I do still though wonder about the GPA</p>
<p>In Florida, from my son's experience, most AP courses do require a lot more work than honors courses. Most have huge summer projects required before the semester even begins. They also have a lot more required reading and writing. The AP and IB curriculum is supposed to be standardized whereas honors and dual enrollment are not. You don't get college credit for AP unless you are able to get at least a 3 on the exam and some elite private schools don't even give college credit for 5s.</p>
<p>In some schools, a B+ is equal to a 3.5, an A- is a 3.75 etc. .... add the extra point for AP and that is how someone could have a weighted GPA of 4.8. Many hs have different scales. The public high schools in Broward County Florida inflate the weighted GPA's a lot! At my child's private hs, a "B" in a reg class is 3.0, in an honors class it is a 3.45 and in an AP class it is a 3.9. Because of my child's individual hs grading scale, her Florida College recalculated GPA is actually a slight bit higher than her transcript GPA.</p>
<p>Interesting, it really does put I guess what I will call regular kids at a significant disadvantage in the rack and stack at the schools we have been talking about. </p>
<p>At our school there is no plus and minus and I don't know of anyone at least around here that does do. The median average (50%) for our HS class is 87.5. It has always been a gifted and competitve class. So kids doing basically high 80's work without perhaps the benefit of any weighting get caught in the 3.0 to 3.2 purgatory, which ends up being at the low end of everyone's profile.</p>
<p>Our school did a horrible job of preparing and explaining this whole GPA conversion, this included the weighted aspect. In their mind it's a numeric based system. Likewise they didn't explain the core course aspect's of the conversion. I think many people having cracked the code earlier might have arrived at a different outcome in terms of their GPA.</p>
<p>The Florida guidance counselors emphasize in the beginning of high school to take the hardest courses available at your school if you want to get into the highly selective universities. Honors students with excellent grades do get accepted into the universities. College-bound regular students are encouraged to go to community college to gain their associates degree with a good GPA and then can transfer into the universities. Anyone with the desire and motivation should be able to get a university degree if they put forth the effort to succeed.</p>
<p>The Florida College GPA's also have NO pluses or minus. This is an attempt to equalize the inflation somewhat. So, if a child has a B or a B+ in an honors class...it is still worth a 3.5 (3.0 for B, .5 boost for honors). If it is a A- in regular class, it is still a 4.0 (as opposed to the 3.67 at my child's school). So, yes, kids who do not have many honors classes on their transcripts are at a big disadvantage. Many "average" kids here in Florida take all honors classes. Public school parents are allowed to "parent preference" their kids to get them into the classes.</p>
<p>Here in NY it's a bit different, we have this concept of Regents. Kids can participate in a local program which is the first level, but most "average kids" opt for Regents which can lead to Regents with distinction. Then next up is AP. Regents is administered by the state of NY and requires rigor and competency in all your major sequences, mandatory sitting and passing of course finals and 3 year competency test for your major sequences at the end of the sequence. In addition you must pass specific almost college level tests in Chemistry, Math 1, Math 2, English, History to achieve distinction level.</p>
<p>I thought that you said that you were in Fort Myers Ray?</p>
<p>FYI -- Most of the FSU college courses are graded with + or -. It is at the professor's discretion. B- is a 2.75, B is a 3.0 and a B+ is a 3.25. There is no such thing as an A+ :(</p>
<p>I am in Ft Myers, but I also still have a place in NY. My D is finishing her senior year back in NY under my son's oversight, so we are back and forth a bit. Right now I just happen to be at my NY command post this week. I took an early retirement which enabled me to spend most of our time in Fla. I'd prefer to not be here of course. Once she goes to college I won't be back up here much, but we still have family up here.</p>