Wharton Classes for a CAS Student?

<p>I'm interested in pursuing a career in business. What Wharton classes do college students generally take? </p>

<p>If I understand correctly, Penn's one university policy allows college students to take any Wharton class as long as they can fit it into their schedule. Does that usually mean that I'd have to take a heavy courseload (ie. 5 or more classes) to fit one in? What year do CAS students generally find that they have the time to fit in a couple wharton courses?</p>

<p>It'll depend on your major. You can find the total number of credits that will be required for your major [url=<a href="http://www.college.upenn.edu/majors/credits.php%5Dhere%5B/url"&gt;http://www.college.upenn.edu/majors/credits.php]here[/url&lt;/a&gt;]. The catch is that only 4 of those "CU Outside Major" (aka electives) can be courses outside of the College. Thirty-two total credit units equates to 4 classes per semester for all 4 years, so (assuming you're in a 32-credit major) you'll have additional classes for more than 4 Wharton classes.</p>

<p>Taking 5 classes really isn't that bad though, as almost everyone in Wharton, SEAS, and Nursing take 5. Many people take 6 credits as well (I know people taking up to 9, but that's a little bit absurd). A lot of people in the College choose to take more than 4 even though they don't have to.</p>

<p>There are a few ways around this. One trick is to satisfy some of your major requirements with AP's. Another is to enroll in Wharton classes that are cross-listed as College classes so they can count towards your total CU. For example, FNCE 230 is cross-listed as ECON 237. Also, STAT 101 and 102 count towards the quantitative data analysis requirement, so they count towards your total CU as well.</p>

<p>Some popular basic courses are Accounting 101/102, Finance 100/101, and Statistics 101/102, and then advanced finance classes if that's what you want to go into.</p>

<p>Is there a maximum # of credits that CAS students can take per semester? I read somewhere that freshmen first semester are limited to 4.5... what about other years?</p>

<p>the rest of the time it is 5.5 credit units, but if you talk to some of the people in the College office you can get that changed if you want to take 6. Anything over that is just masochism.</p>

<p>You can take as many as you want if you are forceful enough.</p>

<p>I strongly believe that Marketing 101 is the best Wharton class for a college student because it needs the least prior knowledge, offers the most relevant information, and will entertain you more.</p>

<p>It depends on what kind of business you are trying to pursue..."business" is a rather broad field to say the least.</p>

<p>If you are interested in finance, take the relevant stat/accounting/finance courses, and probably OPIM too to perfect your spreadsheet jockeying skills.</p>

<p>If you are interested in consulting, take management courses</p>

<p>International business? try the ones that have "international" "multinational" "global" etc in the name (a lot of these ones can count towards a CAS major in International Relations)</p>

<p>And so on. Check the Wharton departments for concentrations that interest you, as the category of "business" is so broad as to be meaningless.</p>

<p>Thanks guys, this has been really helpful. Is the Business Public Policy minor beneficial? From the other thread I kind of got the vibe that it isn't very interesting and repetitive if you are intending to be a PoliSci/IR major. Would you recommend that minor to a prospective Econ major in the college?</p>

<p>The areas of business I'm mostly interested in are banking, trading and consulting.</p>

<p>"banking, trading and consulting"</p>

<p>Like there are any others out of Penn...</p>

<p>(I kid, I kid)</p>

<p>hahaha :-p</p>

<p>You can always ask your advisor to take more credits. Mine let me take 6 fall semester of freshman year (as a Wharton student, so that was only 1 more than normal). Another friend in the College took 4 in the fall and 6 in the spring. They can't really stop you.</p>

<p>nice, i'm glad they allow us to be that flexible. i'm definitely going to look into taking that marketing 101 and/or a finance course.</p>

<p>I am planning to transfer into Wharton next year. However, it may be eaiser to transfer into CAS than Wharton.</p>

<p>What, exactly, is the difference being a part of Wharton and a student taking classes in Wharton from a different college of UPenn?</p>

<p>being in wharton gives you a wharton degree; just taking classes in wharton doesn't provide any particular distinction unless you're doing it for an interschool minor or other minor program, though you can list classes you've taken on your resume.</p>

<p>personally by the end of next semester i'll have taken negotiations (via management), 3 healthcare management courses, 2 legal studies courses, and product design (via operations and info management) - and i'm not even in the college.</p>

<p>i'm an engineering entrepreneurship minor; the other classes have been taken in prep for a legal career that will hopefully involve healthcare issues / policy.</p>

<p>the differences of being in CAS instead of Wharton? let's see...</p>

<ul>
<li>your email address ends in @sas.upenn.edu instead of @wharton.upenn.edu (except when you're enrolled in a wharton class and you get a @wharton address to get access to all the wharton software)</li>
<li>you will have to do your 4 years worth of Wharton in 3 years which most transfers would agree isn't too much fun</li>
<li>you will enjoy your classes much more</li>
<li>you have a leg-up in recruiting (how much of one is a subject for debate)</li>
<li>you can spare yourself the dreaded wharton curve in particularly curvy classes by opting to take it Pass/Fail. I took MKTG pass/fail...damned if I'm going to let the caprices of SABRE control my grade!</li>
</ul>

<p>That's pretty much it. Oh, some prerequisites for Wharton courses don't apply to CAS students. Bonus!</p>

<p>What about dual degreeing, is it difficult to finish the requirements for two majors?</p>

<p>Depends on the second degree, if it has overlaps, then it's definitely possible. And even if there aren't many overlaps, it's still possible, but your schedule might just be a tad bit constricted as to what you should take. But I think Penn is good in this area because there are so many classes that can count for a lot of requirements, so generally, if you do a dual you shouldn't have problems finding interesting/applicable classes that fulfills a requirement at the same time. </p>

<p>I'd admit: Engineering + Wharton Dual is a lot harder than CAS + Wharton Dual. </p>

<p>And as to ilovebagel's point about CAS students needn't worry about Wharton's pre-req's, I generally recommend you get the pre-req's for most classes, esp. finance, statistics, acct, etc. Maybe Mgmt and Mrkt is a bit different, but if you're in a finance class, you'd better know what a variance is...or at least have seen the formula before.</p>

<p>Cheese-itz raises an excellent point. I should clarify. MGMT, MKTG, etc courses allow CAS students to skip prerequisites (but "highly encourage" you to take relevant courses in econ, etc), but the pre-reqs remain in place for Finance. And frankly I don't know how you'd do finance without the necessary background in math, accounting, etc...</p>

<p>You can skip almost any pre-req as long as you ask the professor for permission. I took a FNCE course this semester that had four pre-reqs, none of which I had taken.</p>