Wharton early admit rate

<p>So the school as a whole is about a 30% ED admit rate, but i was curious as to what Wharton's early admit rate is?</p>

<p>I believe it was calculated out to 21%, could be wrong though.</p>

<p>^ that admit rate sounds great.</p>

<p>If you factor out legacy boost, that number is smaller though :/</p>

<p>yeah i made a thread about it and found it to be around 20-25% acceptance. However, Euroazn is right, you have to factor in legacy admits, and athletes, so more probably around 18-19%, I don’t think the number of legacies and athletes is more than 5-6% of those accepted, but I could be wrong.</p>

<p>The ED admit rates–both overall and for Wharton–will probably be lower this year than last year. There was an 18.3% increase in ED apps this year ([Early</a> decision applications up at peer schools | The Daily Pennsylvanian](<a href=“http://www.thedp.com/article/early-decision-applications-peer-schools]Early”>http://www.thedp.com/article/early-decision-applications-peer-schools)), and it’s unlikely that they’ll admit much more than 50% (i.e., 1200 ED admits–same number as last year) of the target class through ED.</p>

<p>And if CC is indicative… aproximately 90% of ED’ers are applying to Wharton. LOL.</p>

<p>According to this article: [Early</a> decision applications drop 8 percent | Interactive Feature | The Daily Pennsylvanian](<a href=“http://thedp.com/node/57887]Early”>http://thedp.com/node/57887) </p>

<p>In 2008, 29% of ED applicants applied to Wharton, 57% to the College, 12% to SEAS, and 2% to Nursing. </p>

<p>Anyone have more recent statistics or information?</p>

<p>@nicholer: yeah those are definitely outdated. the poster above you has a recent statistic but they increased greatly this year.</p>

<p>It’s not really 90%… CC isn’t a very good data set, and there was response-bias…
Or at least I hope not…</p>

<p>^ </p>

<p>Even on CC there are only less than 50% of ED applicants to Penn applying to Wharton. According to the thread below, only 16 out of the 43 ED applicants here are applying to Wharton, with another two applying to dual-degree programs while having Wharton ED as their back-up option.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/1030934-penn-2015-ed-hopefuls-4.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/1030934-penn-2015-ed-hopefuls-4.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Ah. there’s been an influx of CAS candidates, has there? Well, good for me :P</p>

<p>So i think last year overall Wharton was ~9% admit with ED being like ~15%. This year I would it expect them to by ~7-8% and 13-14% respectively.</p>

<p>@whartongrad08</p>

<p>I’m not very inclined to believe the statistics you provided. Wharton’s undergraduate website states that it received around 5500 applications each year and matriculate about 500 of them. Assuming a 75% yield(which is similar to that of Harvard), I speculate that Wharton needs to admit 660-670 students to secure a class of 500, which makes the overall admit rate around 12.1%. Of course my estimation could be wrong, but I just think that 9% overall and 15% ED are too low even for Wharton.</p>

<p>‘How many applications do you receive for a given class?
Application volume for Wharton single and the coordinated degrees averages around 5,500. Each year we matriculate about 500 students in the freshman class.’</p>

<p>[Wharton</a> Undergraduate: FAQs](<a href=“http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/undergrad/admissions/faqs.cfm]Wharton”>FAQ - Undergraduate)</p>

<p>@mathematicism</p>

<p>[All of the following numbers are taken from admission articles in the DP.]</p>

<ul>
<li>Penn targets a class of 2,400 (generally known fact)</li>
<li>Penn generally accepts 47-49% ED (based on data form classes of 2007 - 2010 when Penn still reported numbers granularly)…for the purposes of this exercise we will say 48% or 1,150 will be accepted this year early. Note that this proportion doesnt hold for all schools (SEAS for example is known for trying to fill >50% of the class in ED since they have a low RD yield).</li>
<li>For the class of 2014 Penn received 26,938 total (3,851 ED). The DP recently reported that ED applications rose 18.3% to 4,557. To be conservative lets just say that total apps will rise half what ED rose so 9%…meaning Penn will receive 29,362 applicants. </li>
<li>Generally there is little data as to the number of applicants or acceptances by school…however for the class of 2010 penn provided clarity on this for the OVERALL applicant pool as follows (parenthesis are noted as accepted/total applicants):</li>
</ul>

<p>Wharton (475/3938) = 12.1%
SEAS (775/2924) = 26.5%
SAS (2261/12999) = 17.4%
Nursing (112/391) = 28.6% </p>

<ul>
<li>Since we dont have better data let’s assume that for this year’s class (2015) the proportions of applicants holds (i.e. Wharton will equal 19.2% of all applications). Given this we can assume that Wharton will receive 5,638 applications overall. </li>
<li>Ok so Penn has noted that for the class of 2013 544 applicants were accepted to Wharton, 475 in 2010, 484 in 2009. Let’s assume overall Penn will accept 550 (close to the class of 2013 which saw the highest number of wharton acceptances). </li>
<li>For the class of 2007 Penn noted that 200 students were admitted to Wharton early…for the class of 2010 202 were accepted. So given these two data points for 2015 let’s assume that this year is 200 again (the reason this will be lower than the 47-49% ED fill rate overall is that Penn knows it has a very high yield for wharton v other schools in RD so it fills less of the class in ED compared to other schools see SEAS example above).</li>
<li>The last data point we need to tease out is the proportion of wharton applicants that apply ED vs. RD. In 2007 and 2008 Penn revealed that 25.6% and 23.6% of applicants in ED applied to Wharton respectively. let’s assume that this year it will stay at 25% of all ED applicants…meaning that 1,140 will apply to Wharton ED this year. Also let’s assume that 1/3 of those in ED get deferred to RD. This leaves us with 3,798 applicants for RD.</li>
</ul>

<p>Wharton ED Acceptance Rate: 200/1,140 = 17.5%
Wharton RD Acceptance Rate: 350/3,798 = 9.2%
Wharton Total Acceptance Rate: 550/5,638 = 9.8%</p>

<p>As you can prob calculate if Wharton targets a class of ~500 then the yield for RD is ~85%. Which sounds high (higher than HYP) but from my discussions with some of the guidance counserlors while i was at penn they know that the W yield is one of, if not the highest, in the country. Hence the reason for filing a higher proportion of other schools in RD.</p>

<p>So my numbers initially where a little low…</p>

<p>But the ED number gets lower after one factors out legacies… it’s not a joke app, folks; getting into Wharton is hard.</p>

<p>@mathematicsm</p>

<p>Just to use your numbers…if we assume that they do accept ~660 total. </p>

<p>then the admit rates look like this:</p>

<p>ED: 200/1140 = 17.5%
RD: 460/3798 = 12.1%
Total: 660/5638 = 11.7%</p>

<p>This would give us an RD yield of 65%</p>

<p>At an RD yield of 75% the numbers look like this:</p>

<p>ED: 220/1140 = 17.5%
RD: 400/3798 = 10.5%
Total: 600/5638 = 10.6%</p>

<p>I think it’s probably fair to say that ED rates are in the mid teens at general guidance while RD rates are somewhere between 9-12%.</p>

<p>@whartongrad </p>

<p>Thank you for a very detailed and insightful analysis… I initially did not anticipate that at all. But bottom line, I think we can agree on that the admit rate for Wharton ED is in the mid-high teens.</p>

<p>PS. I’m not sure what went wrong with the total number of applicants in your last post, 1140 + 3798 = 4938… not sure how the 5638 got in the way…</p>

<p>oh good catch…I guess that’s what happens when you do things at 3am. lol. and I call myself a former banker…poor attention to detail…shame. LOL</p>

<p>Total apps to Wharton = 5,638
Assuming 25% of the 4,557 reported ED apps are wharton = 1,140
For RD we assume the difference + deferred ED apps (lets assume 1/3) = 4498 + 380 = 4,878</p>

<p>@ 85% yield:</p>

<p>Wharton ED Acceptance Rate: 200/1,140 = 17.5%
Wharton RD Acceptance Rate: 350/4,878 = 7.2%
Wharton Total Acceptance Rate: 550/5,638 = 9.8%</p>

<p>@ 75% yield:</p>

<p>ED: 200/1,140 = 17.5%
RD: 400/4,878 = 8.2%
Total: 660/5,638 = 11.7%</p>

<p>@ 65% yield:</p>

<p>ED: 200/1,140 = 17.5%
RD: 460/4,878 = 9.4%
Total: 660/5,638 = 11.7%</p>

<p>Ok so we net out with ED in the mid teens and RD in the high one digits (7-10%)…not so far off from my initial numbers I guess…just ED is higher. :)</p>

<p>I honestly believe the 75-85% scenarios are most likely.</p>