<p>what about</p>
<p>North Face University</p>
<p>I sorta like the sound of "Ugg U."</p>
<p>i like U of Ugg better, it could be UUgg for short</p>
<p>Yeah you have a point about the Penn thing 45 percenter, and I do agree with JohnnyK that wharton U sounds nice. The thing is that you simply can't call it that it would just create more tension (or tension if it's absent) among the schools at penn. I think that efforts should be done to have the nickname Penn be as strong and consolidated as say MIT, because I hate how there's like 5 nicknames (You don't see Massachusetts IT or M Inst of T). It's necessary to have penn be a standard nationwide name like MIT is, and virtually abandon "University of Pennsylvania."</p>
<p>^That's exactly what "Penn" has spent a great deal of time and effort attempting to do the past few years. Now we just need to eliminate "UPenn", and the University can help tremendously by changing the internet domain name from "upenn" to "penn".</p>
<p>penn is definitely going to cause a lot more confusion between penn state and penn than just plain old Upenn.</p>
<p>UPenn is actually a much more recent contrivance than Penn, a name that was largely put out to distinguish it from Penn State and so has been somewhat controversial</p>
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You're referring to UPenn, I assume (I wasn't sure from your post). Apparently, the label "UPenn" was never encouraged by the University itself (and is not officially endorsed), but actually developed as a result of the University's adopting the "upenn" domain name when email first got going. There's an interesting discussion of all this in a Wikipedia footnote:</p>
<p> [quote] In addition to Penn, U of P and Pennsylvania, UPenn has come into fairly common usage due to university officials establishing the domain name of the university as "upenn.edu." Penn has been used by sportswriters for at least a century, e.g. Crowther, Samuel (1905). Rowing and Track Athletics. The Macmillan company, 85. [3]. Official emphasis on Penn began c. 1990 and intensified in 2002 with President Rodin's "One University" initiative.[4]. The University's formal branding and usage guidelines [5], [6], [7] specify Penn and the "Penn-University of Pennsylvania" logo but do not explicitly deprecate UPenn or other abbreviations. The recent popularity of UPenn is probably influenced by campus email addresses which use the domain name "upenn.edu," and possibly by parallels with UMass and UConn (which, unlike UPenn, have official status and are trademarked). Daily Pennsylvanian columnist Jeff Shafer traces the origin of the "upenn" domain name to pre-Internet days, citing SAS computing head Ira Winston as saying that in the early days of email the University chose upenn.csnet, which "mimicked the University of Delaware's udel.csnet." Thus the choice of "upenn" was made when computer network names had little public visibility, and before the university decided to emphasize Penn as part of a conscious branding strategy. Shafer says the university studied the feasibility of full conversion to "penn.edu" in 2002 but decided that the costs were too high.[8]. UPenn is seen in college guides.[9]. The abbreviation "U. Penn" appears in novels[10] and in academic journal abbreviations, e.g U. Penn L. Rev[11], (although the National Library of Medicine uses the abbreviation Univ PA).[12] "U Penn"[13][14] and U-Penn[15] are also seen.
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<p>From the above, it's clear that referring to the school as "Penn" has quite a long tradition: "Penn has been used by sportswriters for at least a century, e.g. Crowther, Samuel (1905)."</p>
<p>yes i know but it's not standard. It's annoying when I talk to people and sometimes we tak in terms of upenn and then penn. I think it just confuses the name and it takes away respectability in the name.</p>
<p>^I'll bet that the "Penn" nickname is even older than 100 years - it's a pretty natural abbreviation. The only problem with it is that it is so easily confused with "Penn State".</p>
<p>"U of PA" is another abbreviation but then there's Indiana University of Pennsylvania, California U of PA, etc. - if you think Penn's name is confusing, pity the students at that school who have to explain that they don't go to U of PA and that their schools aren't in Indiana or California.</p>
<p>I really don't see a good way out short of a billionaire buying the name. Maybe they could sell naming rights like they do to stadiums - it could be "Lincoln Financial University" or "Wachovia University".</p>
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Shafer says the university studied the feasibility of full conversion to "penn.edu" in 2002 but decided that the costs were too high.
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<p>It's high time to re-evaluate that. The costs of not doing it at this point are exceeding the costs of just biting the bullet...</p>
<p>You didn't try <a href="http://www.penn.edu%5B/url%5D">http://www.penn.edu</a>, did you? ;)</p>
<p>Edit: Oh, maybe I didn't unterstand you correctly. I read like "The costs to buy the domain were too high"... and I was very proud when I found out that they actually bought the domain... but I might have misunderstood you</p>
<p>^It forwards to <a href="http://www.upenn.edu%5B/url%5D">www.upenn.edu</a>. They need to change the primary domain name to <a href="http://www.penn.edu%5B/url%5D">www.penn.edu</a> so that future generations of applicants learn to call the school "Penn" instead of "UPenn", and I nominate JohnnyK to head up a special task force to make sure that it gets done. :)</p>
<p>The transition to the Penn shield wasn't all about Wharton. The entire university went through a rebranding initiative with the new Penn shield logo and ALL 12 schools on Penn's campus adopted the Penn shield. It was a university-wide decision, and a very good one.</p>
<p>^And a long overdue one. For many years, Penn's image and prestige suffered from the whole actually being less than the sum of the parts. Positive press and prestige for individual components like Wharton, Annenberg, etc., didn't always inure to the benefit of the entire University.</p>
<p>Would you say international students have better chances to get into Wharton, respective US students with similar merits?</p>
<p>Back to the original topic:
<a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/content/apr2006/bs20060417_738116.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/content/apr2006/bs20060417_738116.htm</a></p>
<p>Here it states the acceptance rate was 8 or 9% in 2006.</p>
<p>great article. It's a lot better to have concrete numbers (or somewhat) then just hearsay or verbal statements</p>
<p>Why should we change? Make Penn State change their whatever. Hah</p>
<p>that's a good proposal. we could all pay when we're making big bucks penn state to change their nickname to PSU or Central Pennsylvania State (CPSU) or something of the sort</p>