<p>Also consider that you will be in a school where the majority of students are from the same state if you go to Ross. Do you prefer Ann Arbor over Philadelphia?</p>
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<p>Most of those points are mildly to severely incorrect. I recommend you do some more research. And, I believe you meant a “motivating superiority complex.” My apologies for assuming you were male :).</p>
<p>since you’re a girl, the choice has been made easier for you:
the guys at penn are too good looking, and they’ll distract you from your learning. take your full ride at michigan!
(there are good looking guys at michigan too, but not as many.)</p>
<p>plus, you’d be dumb to turn down such a good b-school for a slightly better b-school at a $200,000 price tag…</p>
<p>Your final decision shouldn’t be primarily made on prestige or financial issues (though it will, the world isn’t perfect).</p>
<p>The culture at the two schools is dramatically different. This mostly has to do with Penn being in a major city and Ann Arbor being a college town. Though I spent a summer at UMich I am a Penn student and know more about Penn. There’s a very pre-professional atmosphere with pressure to excel, both academically and job-wise. </p>
<p>I’d say the unusual thing is being pushed to get internships and job offers early on, even after sophomore or freshman year. That being said, there are loads of extracurriculars and it’s a lot of fun.</p>
<p>Both schools are definitely top schools. I would say Wharton is more respected, but Ross is definitely on comparable terms. I also think you might have some misconceptions about UMich/Ross, as I did before I seriously considered attending there. UMich is a big school with one of the largest undergrad population. While this may naturally have some negatives, it also leads to an enormous alumni network which is reflected in it’s domestic and international prestige. UMich is also known for its top engineering and medical programs, and so if you plan to go into business with regard to one of those fields, you might be able to establish connections with UMich alumnis all over to help you. But then again, I guess it’s also a similar situation with Penn. Perhaps you should take a deeper look on the UMich forum. And if you’re still wondering about Ross’s prestige, particularly in landing business consultant jobs, consider what bearcats (UMich student) said on the UMich board (UMich vs. UVA thread <– you might also wanna take a good look at this thread):</p>
<p>"Also, in terms of prestige hogging, no one knows prestige better than strat powerhouse Mckinsey, BCG, Bain (generally known as MBB)</p>
<p>Undergraduate Recruiting at Vault’s Top Six Consulting Firms: Vault Management and Strategy Consulting Career Information (EDIT: supposed to be a link to the article)</p>
<p>These are all not only for the business schools either. All of them have presentations on north campus according to their schedule.</p>
<p>Michigan is a target for Mckinsey, BCG and Bain (3/3)</p>
<p>UVA is a target for BCG and Bain (2/3)</p>
<p>That’s right. Michigan is a core school for the most prestige thirsty consulting firm on the planet, Big McK; placing them within the elite list of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, UPenn, MIT and Stanford.
“McKinsey maintains working relationships with dozens of campus career centers, but this year the firm is actively recruiting at only a handful of them. These schools are Harvard, Yale, Princeton, the University of Pennsylvania, MIT, Stanford and the University of Michigan.”</p>
<p>You want to go to business school. Do the math.</p>
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<p>Listen to that little voice or it will haunt you forever…muahaha</p>
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Go to Wharton so I can laugh my ass off when you’re in disgusting debt and/or you make your parents go broke.</p>
<p>make a god damn decision, it doesn’t affect us anyway. make a pro-con list or something.</p>
<p>Wharton senior here…</p>
<p>Choosing a school based on prestige is silly when you have other prestigious options at a much lower price tag. Simple concept of marginal benefit versus marginal cost 
Are the added benefits of the Wharton name, teachers, and resources really worth the additional $200k over a school like Ross, which is already very well-known, well-respected, and great with resources and job placement? Name will only get you so far. I can guarantee you that those who excel at Ross could just as easily excel here at Wharton. It’s really naive, in my opinion, to assume otherwise. </p>
<p>It’s not like only Ivy Leaguers get the top jobs… I’ve seen this personally and wish I knew it more intimately before making my college decisions. People in this thread who are telling you that Wharton is going to make things so much easier than Ross would are not being realistic (I am willing to bet that most of them aren’t even college students yet). Excel at Ross and you will still have very favorable outcomes. </p>
<p>Aside from that, you need to look at personal fit. The atmospheres are quite different, so be sure to get a good idea what each school feels like and remember that you’re going to be spending four years there.</p>
<p>nj<em>azn</em>premed: Yes, many of the classes that undergrads take are actually double-listed as MBA courses. That is, MBAs and undergrads are oftentimes in the same class for various subjects. The curves are separate, though, and the undergrads usually kick the crap out of the MBAs performance-wise :P</p>
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<p>You can’t compare marginal benefit vs marginal cost because you don’t know what the OP’s demand function is…not to mention that fact that this is a one time decision and therefore diminishing marginal utility does not apply.</p>
<p>I’m a HS junior from California dreaming of having the opportunity to go to Wharton.
How could you turn it down?
The opportunities after you graduate are endless.</p>
<p>Yeah and if you had read through earlier posts, you’d realize we’ve already stereotyped people just like you and decided that you have no idea what you’re talking about.</p>
<p>AstonMartin, wth? That is completely wrong This isn’t some sort of production plant where we’re dealing with a bunch of units over time or something. This is simply comparing the added benefits of Wharton to the added costs associated with it over other options.</p>
<p>Wharton’s great and all, but I think a lot of people tend to overinflate how much of an impact it has all by itself. If you go to Wharton, I can assure you that you’re going to graduate with debt that you could have done without once you realize that you’ll be working alongside people from all over the place… including Ross. </p>
<p>I’m telling this to you because I was more or less in your shoes back in the day. I had MANY options available to me, and I was a bit blinded by prestige. Many other offers were much better for me financially. Now, I realize that prestige can really only get you so far. It’s absolutely true when they say that if you work hard at a good school, you’ll be in good shape. When you find yourself at work collaborating with people from non-Ivies, it just makes it all the more obvious that this “Ivy or bust” mentality is founded upon myth.</p>
<p>^All I was saying is that each person has a different utility function. The benefit that each person gets from going to Wharton is different. Therefore, it is neither right nor wrong to turn down Wharton for Ross, it simply depends on how much that benefit is worth to you. I would never turn down a better school for financial concerns, but I know plenty of people who do.</p>
<p>legendofmax, I think you are feeling this way because of the down economy and you may not have a good offer in hand. However, I can assure you down the road, you will be happy that you have a Wharton degree because when the economy picks up,those who have degrees from Wharton, HYPS will stand out even more.</p>
<p>My son has a friend who graduated in 2003 during the tech bubble and jobs were scarce. He started a job with grads from no name schools. However, in 2005 when the economy picked up, he received a job offer from an investment bank and now works in a major investment management firm. He firmly believes that his Wharton degree gave him the edge.</p>
<p>There are no guarantees in life and no one can predict the future, but when presented with a good opportunity, one should seize it, that is, if you can afford it.</p>
<p>The OP hasn’t said whether her parents can afford it or not. If they can, she should go. I don’t think it is a good idea to go to ANY school with debt loads that cannot be easily handled.</p>
<p>I am not giving this advice for that reason at all whatsoever. I actually do have a plan for next year that I am fine with. It’s not like the OP is comparing Wharton with some unknown school. He’s comparing rank 1 vs rank 3, and I have a very hard time believing that a costly rank 1 choice is infinitely better than a free rank 3 choice.</p>
<p>If he has no problem taking on the debt, then it becomes a matter of personal fit. But if finances are going to be a problem, you really need to be practical.</p>
<p>Have you considered a Wharton MBA a few years after a Ross BBA? Might be something to consider…</p>
<p>go to wharton if you have the money; if the money’s important go to michigan. you’ll feel like you’re surrounded by idiots at frat parties but it is really fun at michigan too! don’t let us influence your decision though, especially the people who are already going to wharton and the people on the waitlist who want your spot =P</p>
<p>I would go to UMich if I had the same choices. Wharton is great- a dream school, but UMich is also a nice school and a school that you would probably stand out in. With the economy right now, no one’s sure what would happen in 4 years. It would be better to graduate with no debt. You can also consider going to Wharton for MBA, which is what a lot of people do after a few years of work experience.</p>