Wharton Transfer

<p>He got rejected from Wharton last year. Although Berkeley is #3 in undergrad business, he really wants to get in #1. He improved A LOT in his senior year in high school and freshman year in college. Will he stand a chance as a sophomore transfer?</p>

<p>Current school: UC Berkeley
HS GPAuw- 3.8
HS GPAw- 4.3-4.4
College GPA- 4.0</p>

<p>SAT I: 1400 in high school, retoke in college and got 1530
SAT IIs: high school - 750writing, 760mathIIc, 700biologyE. however, he retook the tests in college and got 800writing, 800math2c, 800biologyE, 800japanese</p>

<p>He took the following business related classes in senior year and during the summer from senior to freshman year at our local community college. none of these were mandatory:</p>

<p>Introduction to Business - A
Small Business Management - A
Business Law - A
Human Resource Management - A
Financial Accounting - A</p>

<p>AP Test Scores:</p>

<p>junior year ~
Biology - 5
English Language - 3
US History - 4</p>

<p>senior year~(note that he self-studied 5 of these)
Euro History - 4
Microeconomics - 5
Macroeconomics - 5
Psychology - 5
Chemistry - 4
Calculus BC - 4
Art History - 3
Spanish Language - 4</p>

<p>ECs:
367 community service hours
Waterpolo (9,10,12)
Swimming (10)
Japanese Language School (9,10)
Engineering Club (11)
Science Club (11)
Shorinji Martial Arts (9,10)</p>

<p>Also, I dont know if this will hurt but his EFC on his FAFSA is 0. Very low income. Berkeley is giving him a nice financial aid package and he’s hoping for something similar from Wharton if he gets accepted. Does Wharton provide this?</p>

<p>Essays - talks about how his low income kept him down but, once he got a ton of financial aid from berkeley, he could afford books, take more classes, etc. and improved significantly.</p>

<p>Maybe he should rethink his reasons for transferring.... Berkeley's a GREAT school and he's doing well. I'm sorry, but if he thinks that transferring from a 3rd ranked school to a 1st ranked school is going to be that much of an improvement, I think he has some issues with prestige. Ultimately it doesn't matter where you go to school but what you get from your education (cliche but true). Why bother transferring when he's already suceeding at a fabulous institution?</p>

<p>If his EFC is 0, he's going to get an excellent package from Wharton. His H.S. grades were pretty good, though. I would guess that something else (teacher recs, essays) didn't check out. I would probably move of the financial situation and focus more on why Penn would be a better fit than Berkeley. It seems that he is doing fantastic there, and Penn will likely question why he wants to transfer.</p>

<p>only 5s get credit at penn i think</p>

<p>Lobsta, there are a number of reasons why he wants to transfer to Wharton besides its prestige.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Upenn has a large concentration in its Wharton school whereas Berkeley's magnet is its College of Engineering. EECS is the dominant major. The Haas School of Business is only a small part of the big, impersonal university.</p></li>
<li><p>Berkeley's business program runs differently. You enter as a freshman with an undeclared major, concentrate of finance/econ/business classes for two years, then apply to Haas. Wharton offers a full four years.</p></li>
<li><p>Upenn is a private school and is located out of his state. I know this may sound cheesy, but having lived off an annual income of ~13K, vacations weren't exactly an option for him. He had to work during the summer as a tutor just to pay for his school supplies and also worked in the high school cafeteria to afford his lunch. The fact that he made it into Berkeley is a major accomplishment for his income level. Most people at this poverty barely make it into community college.</p></li>
<li><p>Now that he has the financial backing, he is starting to feel superior to Berkeley students. His income level really kept him down because he had to work and had to become nocturnal to get quiet time to study. With all this provided for him now, he believes that he is capable of stepping up a noche.</p></li>
<li><p>Many Berkeley pre-business students are Wharton rejects and aspire to transfer into Wharton.</p></li>
</ol>

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<p>He probably shouldn't mention this in the transfer essay.</p>

<p>Soory, # 4 bothers me. Does that mean that students attend Berkeley only because they can't afford to go to a private school? Education and the cost of tuition have no direct correlation.</p>

<p>Wharton transfer is especially difficult because you are also competiting with internal transfers (kids from SEAS and College) and I believe they only take a select number, TOTAL. That's why most transfers are into the College. Plus, Wharton is stingy with transfer credits so you might run into trouble with that.</p>

<p>Actually Penn15 that is not true. External transfers do not compete with internal transfers. The decisions are made completely separately and are totally different pools.</p>

<p>My concern would be that Wharton looks for leaders and people who are really involved and his ECs are really weak.</p>